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    rumor
    or (especially British) rumour
    [roo-mer]

    Synonyms
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    noun
    1.
    a story or statement in general circulation without confirmation or certainty as to facts:
    a rumor of war.
    2.
    gossip; hearsay:
    Don't listen to rumor.
    3.
    Archaic. a continuous, confused noise; clamor; din.
    verb (used with object)
    4.
    to circulate, report, or assert by a rumor:
    It is rumored that the king is dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    scan·dal
    ˈskandl

    noun
    noun: scandal; plural noun: scandals

    an action or event regarded as morally or legally wrong and causing general public outrage.
    "a bribery scandal involving one of his key supporters"
    synonyms: (outrageous) wrongdoing, impropriety, misconduct, immoral behavior, unethical behavior, discreditable behavior, outrageous behavior; More

    the outrage or anger caused by a scandalous action or event.
    "divorce was cause for scandal on the island"
    synonyms: shame, dishonor, disgrace, disrepute, discredit, infamy, ignominy, embarrassment; More

    rumor or malicious gossip about scandalous events or actions.
    "I know that you would want no scandal attached to her name"
    synonyms: malicious gossip, malicious rumor(s), slander, libel, calumny, defamation, aspersions, muckraking, scandalmongering, smear campaign; informaldirt
    "no scandal is attached to her name"

    a state of affairs regarded as wrong or reprehensible and causing general public outrage or anger.
    "it's a scandal that many older patients are dismissed as untreatable"
    synonyms: disgrace, outrage, injustice; More
    pretty sure no one has brought charges of bribery or even taken HRC to court for divorce or substantiated rumors of sexual misconduct.

    What you are mistaking is the difference between a rumor and an actual scandal.
    And what else you are missing is the source of the rumors

    What scandalous event or action ?
    ////

    AA really isn't black.

    Now, is AA's racial status a scandal or a rumor ?
    Last edited by 57Brave; 10-20-2015 at 09:35 AM.

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    It's shilly in here.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-started.html

    Countdown until 57 does an about-face on his opinion of this 'rumor' and starts calling Clinton a hero?

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    Downing Street memos intimated as much.
    Last edited by 57Brave; 10-20-2015 at 10:00 AM.

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    I find Laura Bush's shoes and sensually handling Tony Blair a scandal


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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Downing Street memos intimated as much.
    Context.

    Why was the document on Hillary's private 'e-mail' server?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    pretty sure no one has brought charges of bribery or even taken HRC to court for divorce or substantiated rumors of sexual misconduct.

    What you are mistaking is the difference between a rumor and an actual scandal.
    And what else you are missing is the source of the rumors

    What scandalous event or action ?
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    AA really isn't black.

    Now, is AA's racial status a scandal or a rumor ?
    Ask Bedell, ask Okie, ask Dalyn. They seen the pics of me and my beautiful WHITE wife and MIX children.

    then discuss.

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    is it a rumor or a scandal ?

    see what I mean ?
    Last edited by 57Brave; 10-20-2015 at 02:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    see what I mean ?

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    So, you are saying AA really isn't black ?
    I've read it here and it's been questioned many times ---

    Mike Piazza -- gay or straight ?


    " rumor or malicious gossip about scandalous events or actions. "
    Last edited by 57Brave; 10-20-2015 at 03:13 PM.

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    Whatever it is that you are trying to do here is falling spectacularly flat.

    Clinton stored government e-mails on a private, unsecured e-mail server. Why? It's being investigated.

    The rumors have involved everything from cover-up to inadvertent stupidity. But the scandal is the act itself (especially as it derives from her inability/unwillingness to provide the e-mails for non-partisan investigatory bodies).
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    I'll take that to mean AA is not black

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    I'll take that to mean AA is not black
    I've actually always thought you were black, but that's neither here nor there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I've actually always thought you were black, but that's neither here nor there.
    BWAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Sav definitely know my skin color. He is my n***a (in Denzel Washington's voice).

    Unlike my skin color, Billary hides, deflects, distorts, everything in her power to keep this on the down low. I am a straight shooter asshole that will not pull any punches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    I'll take that to mean AA is not black
    Your credibility fall over the years has been monumental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    But back to the original point,...
    No Hillary Scandal has had legs.
    Agree with her policies or not, not voting for her because of her "scandals" is stupid and uninformed
    Absolutely true. A "scandal" denotes the bad news has taken hold and harmed a reputation significantly, and in Hilary's case nothing to this point has. Her negatives come more from her stiff public speaking style (often an asset for a politician) and the GOP's constant attack on her. But people persuaded by these would not have supported her anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Absolutely true. A "scandal" denotes the bad news has taken hold and harmed a reputation significantly, and in Hilary's case nothing to this point has. Her negatives come more from her stiff public speaking style (often an asset for a politician) and the GOP's constant attack on her. But people persuaded by these would not have supported her anyway.
    That's an incorrect definition.

    The word does not describe the extent of the damage beyond "general public outrage" -- you would need to add a qualifier to do that. If you haven't seen general public outrage over the e-mail issue then you haven't been keeping up with the news for the greater part of the past half-year.

    We're grasping at straws here to defend Hillary. It's really amusing, even coming from the usual suspects.

    Her negatives (and no, 'stiff public speaking' is absolutely NOT an asset for a politician in 2015 [sure, maybe 1915]) revolve around the fact that she is a career politician, primarily driven by opportunism boosted by unearned celebrity, as well as widely being considered to be a frigid megalomaniac. The Clinton's as a unit have a LONG history of soliciting donations from the most unsavory of humans, not to mention questionable ethics arising from their management of the Clinton Foundation.

    But it must be nice to dismiss all uncomfortable truths as a product of the opposition's hate machine.
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    I am not defending Hillary per se.

    I am defending responsible public discourse.
    Based on who what when where and why

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    You've offered no examples of irresponsible public discourse in relation to HRC.

    If you are going to come back with snippets from Fox News, Limbaugh, or some blatantly right-wing source, then please don't waste my time.

    I don't consume partisan tripe.

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    you make me laugh -- "consume partisan tripe"

    Stop it you're killin' me.

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    I've noted 25 years of drip drip drip " irresponsible public discourse in relation to HRC. "

    Unfortunately for your point Fox,Limbaugh (Roger Ailes) et al are driving the bus - and have been since 1991-92.

    Oh, I forgot you read the Guardian.
    whatever

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