S-Rod traded to Pirates

[mfree80]

Obviously none of us know for sure what these guys are going to do... My opinion for what its worth.

I love Camargo and really like him in a utility role, but still see Swanson as the better long term player. I think Camargo playing every day has been exposed a little, and would be better in a utility role.

Patience is not a virtue for most fans. I think Swanny will be fine over the long haul.

[zbhargrove]

That last play also restates the case that he is as good or better a shortstop.

I think there is no doubt Camargo is better defensively but he's going to need to get hot again to prove he can cut it on the offensive side.

[Tapate50]

So I stop monitoring this place for one Fricking day, and y'all let Coppy get into Chip's stash? All this **** is bonkers man

[bravesfanMatt]

I would like Swanson to open his stance a bit more and then close up on his swing. He flys off the ball way too much and if he was bringing his front foot back into the plate, he would stay on the ball better..

[Southcack77]

I think there is no doubt Camargo is better defensively but he's going to need to get hot again to prove he can cut it on the offensive side.

Improve offensively to beat out whom?

[mfree80]

I think there is no doubt Camargo is better defensively but he's going to need to get hot again to prove he can cut it on the offensive side.

I love Camargo's arm, and hands, but i am not sure Dansby doesn't have better range.

[zbhargrove]

Improve offensively to beat out whom?

Talking about long term potential between him and Dansby

[smootness]

Dansby is very good defensively. Even with all the errors, he's been above-average at SS. I absolutely question whether Camargo is better there.

[Managuarantano's Volunteers]

Dansby is very good defensively. Even with all the errors, he's been above-average at SS. I absolutely question whether Camargo is better there.

Heck, he beat Albies out to play short. I think Swanson's better defensively too.

[mfree80]

This> We shouldn't sell him short because he wasn't immediately what we hope he will be. He is solid defensively, and will get it together with the bat.

Patience!

[Enscheff]

I love Camargo's arm, and hands, but i am not sure Dansby doesn't have better range.

Dansby does have better range. Folks see Camargo's double plus arm and confuse it with good defense.

[Enscheff]

Dansby is very good defensively. Even with all the errors, he's been above-average at SS. I absolutely question whether Camargo is better there.

No need to question it. You're right.

[NinersSBChamps]

Dansby is very good defensively. Even with all the errors, he's been above-average at SS. I absolutely question whether Camargo is better there.

If he were "very good" on defense wouldn't he be better than just "above-average?"

[NinersSBChamps]

This> We shouldn't sell him short because he wasn't immediately what we hope he will be. He is solid defensively, and will get it together with the bat.

Patience!

Why? He doesn't automatically get better just because he's young. I think a lot of people here have this misconception that just because a player is young doesn't mean he improves the next season or the season after that. Yes, it is still very early in his career and he could get better, but then again there is a chance he flops. Young players don't always improve over time like people here think. Maybe someday they will enter reality.

[nsacpi]

Dansby does have better range. Folks see Camargo's double plus arm and confuse it with good defense.

Dansby doesn't have especially good hands for a middle infielder. I think Camargo has him beat in that department. But I agree about Dansby having better range.

[mfree80]

Why? He doesn't automatically get better just because he's young. I think a lot of people here have this misconception that just because a player is young doesn't mean he improves the next season or the season after that. Yes, it is still very early in his career and he could get better, but then again there is a chance he flops. Young players don't always improve over time like people here think. Maybe someday they will enter reality.

Nothing is automatic, but his talent is beyond question. Young players with talent who also work hard get better until they reach their prime. You may not see him that way, but I think most people in Baseball have not given up on him at this point.

[weso1]

Dansby does have better range. Folks see Camargo's double plus arm and confuse it with good defense.

But doesn't arm play into range? Make a play deep in the hole and a strong arm can make the difference.

[Enscheff]

Dansby doesn't have especially good hands for a middle infielder. I think Camargo has him beat in that department. But I agree about Dansby having better range.

I can't wait until statcast data is crunched enough to tell us how much range each infielder has. This is absolutely something that can be quantified with the data available.

Reaction time + acceleration + foot speed = range....and the radar tracks all that data.

[NinersSBChamps]

I can't wait until statcast data is crunched enough to tell us how much range each infielder has. This is absolutely something that can be quantified with the data available.

Reaction time + acceleration + foot speed = range....and the radar tracks all that data.

You go crunch those numbers.
I will take grounders.

[thewupk]

But doesn't arm play into range? Make a play deep in the hole and a strong arm can make the difference.

Indeed. Those with super arms can play deeper which allows them to get to more balls and still get them out with their arm.