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    New CBA reached

    According to multiple sources the new CBA is done...

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    A couple of notable points (according to multiple sources)...


    *New CBA is a 5-year deal
    **Numbered points are actual facts by "experts"


    1. No international draft

    2. No 26th roster spot

    3. *No more draft pick compensation attached to free agents -new "penalties" below- (Prior rules apply to existing class)

    4. Increased luxury tax (increases each year starting at $195 million) Cap max's per year shown below

    5. International signing cap in place at $5-6 million

    6. International signing age stays at 16

    7. Player can no longer receive a qualifying offer more than once

    8. Teams that lose player with qualifying offer will get a pick that is determined by their market size ONLY if that player signs a contract over $50 million

    9. Team that signs a free agent with a qualifying offer and are OVER the luxury tax (shown below) will lose 2nd and 5th rounder plus $1 million in international bonus money. Team's that are under tax threshold will lose 3rd round pick. (Thanks @Carp for the assist on this one)

    10. Starting in 2018, season will start mid-week to help create more off-days for players during season

    11. New MLB players will be banned from using smokeless tobacco, current MLB players will be grandfathered in

    12. DL stints go from 15-days to 10-days

    13. Draft slots decrease in terms of what teams can spend

    14. All-star game now has no bearing on home-field advantage in World Series



    Luxury tax thresholds per year:

    2017- $195 million
    2018- $197 million
    2019- $206 million
    2020- $208 million
    2021- $210 million




    *Other QO rules remain the same, player must be on 25-man roster all year and amount that a qualifying offered player receives will be the average of the top 125 salaries.



    **Sorry guys if I post any wrong info, was trying to type while reading and could have mistuderstood some tweets. If you see anything wrong with my points feel free to let me know. Just want to have the correct info!!


    Feel free to comment on notable points and i'll add them
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    I think the biggest thing(s) that effects the Braves are the following two:


    1.) With no qualifying offers that cost a first round pick, does that alter our plan? Do we now go after a Justin Turner?

    2.) With new spending cap on international players are we free to go spend the max next year?

    *If so, we timed our international spending just right!



    Sorry guys, just saw that draft pick compensations still in tact this offseason.. new deal starts next year!
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    Actually, there still is draft pick compensation for QO's. The picks are now a 3rd and 5th round pick for teams under the luxury tax, and a 2nd rounder for teams over the tax.

    And changes won't go into effect till next offseason.
    Last edited by Carp; 11-30-2016 at 09:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Actually, there still is draft pick compensation for QO's. They picks are now a 3rd and 5th round pick for teams under the luxury tax, and a 2nd rounder for teams over the tax.
    Just fixed my post... thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Actually, there still is draft pick compensation for QO's. They picks are now a 3rd and 5th round pick for teams under the luxury tax, and a 2nd rounder for teams over the tax.

    And changes won't do into affect till next offseason.
    So any team below the tax will lose a 3rd and 5th round pick? Team over threshold lose 2nd round pick?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueagleace1 View Post
    So any team below the tax will lose a 3rd and 5th round pick? Team over threshold lose 2nd round pick?

    According to MLBTR, that appears to be the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    According to MLBTR, that appears to be the case.
    Thanks for the help, I was going off a flurry of tweets! So did I misunderstand that teams will move back in draft for signing anyone over $50 million? That could have been a proposal and I just assumed it was apart of the new agreement in the mass of tweets.

    Sorry guys if I posted wrong info, was trying to type while reading and could have mistuderstood some tweets. If you see anything wrong with my points feel free to let me know. Just want to have the correct info!!
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    So a hard cap for each team on international spending. I wonder if that means we can spend like normal this July 2 or if we'll have any penalty.

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    Honestly i feel they rush this to don't have a lockout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    So a hard cap for each team on international spending. I wonder if that means we can spend like normal this July 2 or if we'll have any penalty.
    I'm with you, and that was one of my points from above. If so, and we can than we got lucky and blew past the previous max at the perfect time, signed some players who are expected to be key contributors and one player who has superstar potential for contracts way above our limit and will not be penalized.

    I just don't see how we aren't penalized but if we aren't then that is awesome!!
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    Morosi added that all of the changes in free-agent compensation structure will go into effect next season, with prior rules still applying to this year's class.


    That's a part of a info i just read and i dont have a clue if that means anything for the international signing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    According to MLBTR, that appears to be the case.
    Teams over lose 2nd and 5th, and 1 mil intl signing pool. Teams under just lose 3rd rounder.

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    What happen if a team offers a 1 year contract and try to resign a player the year after that way they dont go over the 50 millions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixiXSolidXixi View Post
    What happen if a team offers a 1 year contract and try to resign a player the year after that way they dont go over the 50 millions?
    Not sure I understand your question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueagleace1 View Post
    Not sure I understand your question.
    8. Teams that lose player with qualifying offer will get a pick that is determined by their market size ONLY if that player signs a contract over $50 million

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    Another question is teams over the luxury that sign 2 players with qualifying offers are they losing 4 players?

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    This appears to be a CBA that's very favorable to middle market teams. Those luxury tax penalties are going to stifle spending. IMO, this is very good for competitive balance and less good for players.

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    seems this is also included in the agreement

    All-Star Game no longer determines Series start!

    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/apnewsbrea...tart/471954631

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