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    Although not great that the dude we extended for several years has already needed to be supplemented with a platoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    So far we've added quality pieces in Duvall, Venters and Brach and given up 500K in useless international money, Wisler and replacement players. AA has done a nice job at the deadline improving the team without paying a significant price.
    I don’t really agree. He’s added some flawed players at relatively little cost and hasn’t necessarily improved the team a great deal.

    I think he’s done the bare minimum and it’s questionable whether Duvall was the most efficient use of even those very modest resources.

    I’ll wait to see if there are any bigger moves coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Although not great that the dude we extended for several years has already needed to be supplemented with a platoon
    Is that better or worse sign than dansby sitting for Charlie Culbertson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    You can’t be serious.
    The price is fine but nothing about the fit makes sense unless he replaces Marky in RF next season. How did Ender go from an All-Star to a platoon player so fast? If the Braves weren't really worried about Ender then why pick up someone on a longer deal and not a rental.

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    Wisler was the last of the remmaing Kimbrel-trade players we got back :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzie's Chainz View Post
    The price is fine but nothing about the fit makes sense unless he replaces Marky in RF next season. How did Ender go from an All-Star to a platoon player so fast? If the Braves weren't really worried about Ender then why pick up someone on a longer deal and not a rental.
    I’m not following your reasoning. The fit makes sense this year. Who knows about next year, but I seriously doubt Duvall is the replacement plan for Markakis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I don’t really agree. He’s added some flawed players at relatively little cost and hasn’t necessarily improved the team a great deal.

    I think he’s done the bare minimum and it’s questionable whether Duvall was the most efficient use of even those very modest resources.

    I’ll wait to see if there are any bigger moves coming.
    I actually agree with you on your main points. He has added some flawed players for little cost and not necessarily improved our team. But I think he's making some good bets. Brach is a really nice bet to add some value down the stretch. Venters is what he is. Duvall is likely to be a nice RH hitter down the stretch. Is it guaranteed to get us a playoff spot? Of course not, but I think these move improve our chances at little cost.
    thank you weso1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzie's Chainz View Post
    The price is fine but nothing about the fit makes sense unless he replaces Marky in RF next season. How did Ender go from an All-Star to a platoon player so fast? If the Braves weren't really worried about Ender then why pick up someone on a longer deal and not a rental.
    We prefer paying more for control.

    Will be interesting to see if there are better rh bats who could hold down a corner that get moved for less.

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    I'm perfectly fine with Acuna in CF, btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    I actually agree with you on your main points. He has added some flawed players for little cost and not necessarily improved our team. But I think he's making some good bets. Brach is a really nice bet to add some value down the stretch. Venters is what he is. Duvall is likely to be a nice RH hitter down the stretch. Is it guaranteed to get us a playoff spot? Of course not, but I think these move improve our chances at little cost.
    I’m not killing him for what he’s done, I just don’t think he’s done very much.

    So I’m not inclined to tip my hat or give him a hand.

    This could all work out well of course. They aren’t terrible bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I’m not killing him for what he’s done, I just don’t think he’s done very much.

    So I’m not inclined to tip my hat or give him a hand.

    This could all work out well of course. They aren’t terrible bets.
    I think he's made the team better at near zero cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    I’m not following your reasoning. The fit makes sense this year. Who knows about next year, but I seriously doubt Duvall is the replacement plan for Markakis.
    I don't understand leaving a 31 homer bat mostly on the bench not to mention he's among the players that lead the league in runs saved in LF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I’m not killing him for what he’s done, I just don’t think he’s done very much.

    So I’m not inclined to tip my hat or give him a hand.

    This could all work out well of course. They aren’t terrible bets.
    I think that's fair, but I think it's also fair to point out that I think he's marginally improved the team without giving up very much.
    thank you weso1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Wisler was the last of the remmaing Kimbrel-trade players we got back :(
    We got Riley in that deal as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzie's Chainz View Post
    I don't understand leaving a 31 homer bat mostly on the bench not to mention he's among the players that lead the league in runs saved in LF.
    Because he’s not a great hitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I’m not killing him for what he’s done, I just don’t think he’s done very much.

    So I’m not inclined to tip my hat or give him a hand.

    This could all work out well of course. They aren’t terrible bets.
    He'd made the team better without gutting the farm. Hard to complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    We got Riley in that deal as well.
    No, we got a draft pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Because I’m trading gold glove defense in center for what figures to be below average cf defense from Acuna.

    And I think ender is more like a 20% below average hitter vs left than the 50% he’s shown.
    You have not read the scouting reports about Acuna in center. He may not be GG yet, but keep in mind his age. He seems to be re-energized with his move to leadoff, and I believe he will be close to top shelf defender. We've been spoiled with Andruw and Ender, to be sure.

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    I still expected Wisler to become a contributor, but it's hard to argue about the cost or the reasoning. Its been painful to look at the pinch hit options on our bench this year. Duvall/Inciarte is a huge step up in that department.
    Go get him!

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