The Trump Presidency

[Krgrecw]

The Senate doesn't even have to take it up. The Constitution grants the Senate the sole power to try an impeachment case. There's no constitutional mandate that they do so. It's actually the same language as that giving the house the sole power to impeach. Since there's no mandate that the House exercise its power to pass articles of impeachment, there's similarly no mandate for the Senate to exercise its power to try the case.

If they do take it up, they could also literally immediately vote to dismiss all of the charges without even holding a trial.

Now I don't think they'll do that. They'll use their chance to control the process to hold the same kind of circus the Dems have been holding for no other reason than PR.

I also disagree that it will be a constitutional crisis if he's reelected after this. Lord knows we've had plenty of worse situations in the past. A President using official power to try to advance his own career is hardly a blip on the radar considering the true horrors committed by Presidents before him.

I honestly consider the bigger threat to be a failed use of the impeachment power. I think too many on the left are letting their hatred of Trump blind them to the realities of the situation. Impeaching Trump and failing to remove him from office does little except undermine the legitimacy of the threat of impeachment, stirs up Trump's base making them more angry and so more likely to vote, deepens the divisivness that already consumes US politics, and emboldens Trump in the future.

Impeaching him without knowing he's likely going to be removed from office would be nothing but a release of frustration by the left that would do more harm than good. Pelosi has been well aware of this fact which is probably why she opposed impeachment for so long.

Your past two paragraphs are spot on. TDS is tearing this country apart. There’s legit reports about the FISA reports starting the whole Russia collusion case being faked and the liberals in here not even caring about that is absurd. Whether you like a guy or not, we should all want the system to be fair and balanced.

[goldfly]

The guy who claims to care about corruption

He’s the worst swamp you can imagine

[57Brave]

In the three years since the election I have yet to hear of any one that voted HRC saying if they had it to do over again they would have voted Trump.
Of course that is anecdotal but, a person that once and a while reads or gets out of the house can attest many many Trump voters rue that vote

So, how does he make up the 3 million he starts off behind ?
Of course, we all know the answer to that question

[BedellBrave]

I'm thinking the Democrats will be guilty of getting him reelected again. Smh.

[Runnin]

The Senate doesn't even have to take it up. The Constitution grants the Senate the sole power to try an impeachment case. There's no constitutional mandate that they do so. It's actually the same language as that giving the house the sole power to impeach. Since there's no mandate that the House exercise its power to pass articles of impeachment, there's similarly no mandate for the Senate to exercise its power to try the case.

If they do take it up, they could also literally immediately vote to dismiss all of the charges without even holding a trial.

Now I don't think they'll do that. They'll use their chance to control the process to hold the same kind of circus the Dems have been holding for no other reason than PR.

I also disagree that it will be a constitutional crisis if he's reelected after this. Lord knows we've had plenty of worse situations in the past. A President using official power to try to advance his own career is hardly a blip on the radar considering the true horrors committed by Presidents before him.

I honestly consider the bigger threat to be a failed use of the impeachment power. I think too many on the left are letting their hatred of Trump blind them to the realities of the situation. Impeaching Trump and failing to remove him from office does little except undermine the legitimacy of the threat of impeachment, stirs up Trump's base making them more angry and so more likely to vote, deepens the divisivness that already consumes US politics, and emboldens Trump in the future.

Impeaching him without knowing he's likely going to be removed from office would be nothing but a release of frustration by the left that would do more harm than good. Pelosi has been well aware of this fact which is probably why she opposed impeachment for so long.

I disagree with pretty much every thought you've made.

The Senate could refuse it but that would likely cause some riffs with the party as well as be horrible optics and bring much unwanted criticism.

The House hearings HAVE NOT been "a circus" even though some GOP members have tried to make it one. Schiff has chaired the hearing honorably and fairly.

Reelecting an undemocractic, un-American despot wannabe would indeed be a constitutional crisis. You may not want to admit it, but the constitutional crisis is happening now. A rogue hatchet man is Attorney General, the State Department has been gutted, the intelligence agencies are at war with the President and the controlling party in the Senate is covering their eyes and on the verge of letting the President get away glaringly obvious, and institution damaging corruption. The crisis is here.

Impeachment without removal, if there is a full trial in the Senate, would hurt the GOP. The President clearly overstepped his power. Watching the GOP try to twist the truth everyday on tv would be good for the country. It would be ironic if the Senate trial, while trying to protect the Pres, actually moved public opinion more against him than the House hearings.

[goldfly]

[goldfly]

[goldfly]

What an idiot

[57Brave]

before someone gets up on their high horse lets bear this in mind.

[goldfly]

I thought we won and totally destroyed them?

[cajunrevenge]

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...rce=reddit.com

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...rce=reddit.com




More evidence of Trumps financial crimes.

[Runnin]

"This year, I'm grateful for the people in red hats."

[goldfly]

[Runnin]

"A Warning" replaces Jr.'s book at #1 on the NYT Bestseller list. I wonder how many poor souls have actually bought and read his book.

[goldfly]

Weird

[cajunrevenge]

We are months now in the Ukraine scandal and Trump still has not said the name of a single Ukranian he wanted investigated as part of his "concern" about corruption in what he called the third most corrupt country in the world.

[Carp]

Weird

Thomas Bowers didn't kill himself.

[goldfly]

[Runnin]

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