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    The guy makes a convincing argument. DT speaks the way he does because he's barely literate. Could he even force himself to read one complete page?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    No, I'm not, but I am telling you that if you expect your animus to gain any kind of meaningful traction beyond the comfortable circles you reside in you should choose better battles ... instead of ones which have already been fought (and won).




    Keep talking
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    Where did you get that from 57.
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


    Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post



    Keep talking
    Lol.

    That should give Trump supporters an erection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Where did you get that from 57.

    Vox

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Its more than the violent protesters. Its dangerous when people are shamed into thinking differently. If someone wants to not like Muslims let them have that thought. If someone doesn't want to like Gay people let them have their thoughts. Same goes with anti-feminist thoguhts. Its ok if people think that. Should they be more enlightened? I can see the argument in that.

    But the world we are living in right now is shaming people for thinking the way they want to think and that isn't right and not productive. It's these attacks that have paved the way for the violent protests and they are only getting larger in number and frequency.

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    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    you were saying ...
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    oh but, the emails



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    Does it cross anyone else's mind that if this is the respect he shows his wife and the mother of his 10 year old son

    What does he think of you ?
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    " Truth be told, you want your news media to be "hard to figure" and not blatantly partisan (like the NYT). "
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    The failing @nytimes writes total fiction concerning me. They have gotten it wrong for two years, and now are making up stories & sources!


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    Is it me or is there a pattern developing.
    Hmmm
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    I subscribe to the NYT (the writing, if not the reporting, is top notch) and have defended them at various times in the past. Print media needs all the love it can get.

    But it's okay to call a spade a spade - and to skeptically assume that not everything in print is true.

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    ... We now return you to your regularly scheduled "but... but... this is an assault on the freedom of the press !??!" hysteria ...
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    President Trump is now speculating that the media is covering up terrorist attacks
    By Philip Bump February 6 at 2:55 PM

    Speaking to the United States’ Central Command on Monday, President Trump went off his prepared remarks to make a truly stunning claim: The media was intentionally covering up reports of terrorist attacks.
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...9540b#comments
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    It was brand-new information to people because there was no “Bowling Green massacre.” Conway had referred to the supposed terrorist attack previously, including in response to a question posed by TMZ. But the two Iraqis arrested in Bowling Green, Ky. in 2011 never committed an attack in the United States. She later admitted that she’d misspoken.
    ..............................

    She didn't misspeak - she is caught on tape 2 other times saying the same.
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...interview.html
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    Ana Marie Cox ‏@anamariecox 17m17 minutes ago



    This is the kind of thing that leads to martial law. I wish I was kidding.
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    After comments about judge who called BS to Trump -- is this where this is going??
    What think you
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    from Daily Kos:

    Donald Trump gave the nation yet more reasons to be frightened of his leadership in a speech to the military on Monday afternoon. Speaking at Central Command headquarters in Florida, Trump obsessively talked about all the “beautiful new equipment” he’d be providing the military and suggested he would continue to favor lawmakers who endorsed him over ones who didn’t. But when he got to the subject of terrorism, Trump was downright detached from reality.

    ”Radical Islamic terrorists are determined to strike our homeland as they did on 9/11, as they did from Boston to Orlando to San Bernardino, and all across Europe,” he said—ignoring the fact that none of those attacks were carried out by people from the countries named in his travel ban. “All over Europe it’s happening.”

    It's gotten to a point where it's not even being reported. And in many cases the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it. They have their reasons and you understand that.

    Yes, that’s right. The press is covering up major terror attacks, and somehow succeeding at that in the age of social media.

    But the really scary part of that statement is that “they have their reasons and you understand that.” Trump is basically painting the media as an enemy of the United States and a friend to terrorists here, and he’s trying to enlist members of the military—to whom he has just promised “beautiful new equipment”—as his confidants, the people who, like him, understand that the media is the enemy.

    America’s laws might be strong enough to keep Donald Trump from becoming a true authoritarian dictator. But the more he talks, the more clear it is that that’s what he wants to be. And he’s angry at the laws and the courts that stand in his way and the media that reports on his lies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I subscribe to the NYT (the writing, if not the reporting, is top notch) and have defended them at various times in the past. Print media needs all the love it can get.

    But it's okay to call a spade a spade - and to skeptically assume that not everything in print is true.

    ---

    ... We now return you to your regularly scheduled "but... but... this is an assault on the freedom of the press !??!" hysteria ...
    Errrr, at a certain point, though, don't you have to say NYT, WP, Foreign Policy, et al vs. Breitbart and RT? Feel free to call a spade a spade, but when you have to take a stand on credibility, where do you fall?

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    You know, this is beyond partisan policy disagreement.

    of raise or lower taxes, regulations, even SCOTUS nominations
    These are Trumps words and we have learned about his naked ambiguity and nod and wink

    Y'all gotta be careful
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    Still don't recollect seeing an administration comment on the 6 people murdered in Quebec City. That was the most recent terrorist attack in North America, yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Errrr, at a certain point, though, don't you have to say NYT, WP, Foreign Policy, et al vs. Breitbart and RT? Feel free to call a spade a spade, but when you have to take a stand on credibility, where do you fall?
    Not necessarily.

    Always consider the source, read from multiple sources, question the angle. That's how you establish credibility. You don't assign it arbitrarily based on whether or not a publication tells you what you want to hear.

    NYT leans left (and is owned by Carlos Slim, who despises Trump), WSJ leans right. RT is government funded (but so is the BBC). Breitbart is a news-aggregator/blog that just happens to have White House ties. All of these things should factor into any critical reading of the press. Now, obviously, for many, they don't.

    (BTW - WaPo is not really a paper since Bezos castrated it, and FP is owned by Slate Media [FA is much better]).
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