That one hurts. Of course if he puts up the same kind of numbers at Auburn next year, he could be a nice target for us next June in the 1st Round.Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt
That one hurts. Of course if he puts up the same kind of numbers at Auburn next year, he could be a nice target for us next June in the 1st Round.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
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Ian Anderson graduates high school today. Should hear an announcement in the next day or two on his official signing.
Okay well Andrelton also came from there.
Plenty of JUCO guys have forgone signing to increase value. Groome almost went to JUCO... Most don't get pick because a combination. Uncertainty of how stats can translate... And they may not sign
And let's not forget that Simmons was a pretty good offensive player for us for a while. His minors and rookie year were terrific. Not to mention many thought he'd be a pitcher
Also not ready to give up on Ellison... He's shown some flashes and it may be just a bit early to judge someone in their first year...
In my opinion... players sign for what they think they're worth... not where they are drafted. This is why Anderson is willing to sign for 60% of slot. This is why the Groome's of the world are risky picks late in the first round. This is why Wentz and Muller are getting paid way over slot. If Lewis felt he was worth 5-6M, he had an easy course of action to take.
But that's just not correct - he doesn't have an easy course of action if he feels he's worth 5-6m and he get picked at #11. He's either taking a big pay cut, or going back to school -- neither those are 'easy courses of action' if a kid feels he's worth bigger money.
The stats are overstuffed, but if a guy is hitting a ton of homers -- he has some power in his bat -- and if he's stealing a bunch of bases -- he has some speed -- and we need as many power/speed positional players in our system as possible.
I wish we could have signed him, I'll be interested to see how he does at Auburn.
The nice thing is that we're lamenting our inability to sign a Day 3 guy, whereas the Angels are looking like they won't sign their second round pick.
The exact same thing can be said if he was drafted 3rd and the team would only offer him $3.2M. He either takes it, or he goes back to school
It usually comes down to which side is more willing to cave. When you're taken 11th and you're demanding $5-6 million, the team is not going to give you that if they didn't already plan for it. That's $2 million+ above slot value, and a team is probably not going to do that for someone like Kyle Lewis. So yes, his choice is basically to accept less or go back to school because he's just not going to ever get the team up there.
When a team takes a player 3rd and wants to pay them $3.2 million, it's because they're trying to save as much money as possible to use elsewhere. Well, if the player doesn't sign at all, they lose all of that extra slot space. That team is not going to allow that to happen. Knowing that's the case, the player's agent will continue to demand more until the team caves. Because the team absolutely will cave. They may not pay right at slot value or close to it because that doesn't really help them save money; but as long as they can get some savings still, they'll likely end up paying it.
But the team's not going to cave at an amount that far over slot at 11 because they can use the extra slot money to sign other players if they don't sign that player.
I don't know why this is tough to figure out. When you're working out an under slot deal, the player has more leverage. When you're working out an over slot deal, the team has more leverage.
We just disagree.
I think that a player who signed for $3.2M would also be willing to sign for $4M. You don't. Let's just move on. I'm tired of typing and reading the same responses
So, once Aqualung signs, the team will have inked 33 draft picks! IMO, that's a roaring success.
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy"- Tom Waits
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Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
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Josh Anthony signed! Per his Twitter
His commitment or contract?
He tweeted he will be a brave after his physical
Wow. Very interesting. Hope this is true.
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