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    Quote Originally Posted by chipchildress View Post
    this is about more revenue for the braves and nothing else. you can't let stupid old hank aaron's number get in the way of a good budweiser ad.
    Coors Light, but your point stands...

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    Any updates on attendance figures ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Any updates on attendance figures ?
    It's trending to 2.7M which is a great number for the braves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    It's trending to 2.7M which is a great number for the braves.
    Tucker posted an article this week in the AJC pointing out that attendance was up 40% this year, which is fantastic. Important to note that the Battery is only 30% finished, IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Tucker posted an article this week in the AJC pointing out that attendance was up 40% this year, which is fantastic. Important to note that the Battery is only 30% finished, IIRC.
    For lack of a better word it was a home rUn to move to Cobb County. This revenue boon puts us in play on much more than ever before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    For lack of a better word it was a home rUn to move to Cobb County. This revenue boon puts us in play on much more than ever before.
    Except we have to trade Jaime to add the remainder of Gray's 3.6 million dollar salary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Except we have to trade Jaime to add the remainder of Gray's 3.6 million dollar salary.
    Just more money to invest in someone like verlander. Braves have invested a lot of money for 2017 and beyond. Eating the 3.5 doesn't do much more IMO. This kid we got is a nice lotter ticket.

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    I am making my way to Atlanta for the game Sunday. My question is what do I need to do/see/eat at? What is the best of Sun Trust?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach_Chris View Post
    I am making my way to Atlanta for the game Sunday. My question is what do I need to do/see/eat at? What is the best of Sun Trust?
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    Outside chance at 2.8M fans now this year.

    The recent losing may put a damper on attendance but the first year could not have gone better I'd imagine from the Braves perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Outside chance at 2.8M fans now this year.

    The recent losing may put a damper on attendance but the first year could not have gone better I'd imagine from the Braves perspective.
    Define outside chance? We would have to average 39,000 per game from here on out.

    But I do agree with your general point. Nothing wrong with sniffing top ten in attendance with a 70 win team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach_Chris View Post
    I am making my way to Atlanta for the game Sunday. My question is what do I need to do/see/eat at? What is the best of Sun Trust?
    For food you gotta eat at Antico. It's just as good as the one in midtown, best pizza in ATL. It's the real pizza that's not doughy so you can still fit in a couple of beers.

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    Fox brothers BBQ. Haven't tried the one at Suntrust but their other location is killer. Best Bbq in atlanta.

    That's what I like about this place and I haven't even been there... the eats at the Ted were at best pretty bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Fox brothers BBQ. Haven't tried the one at Suntrust but their other location is killer. Best Bbq in atlanta.

    That's what I like about this place and I haven't even been there... the eats at the Ted were at best pretty bad.
    Being from Eastern NC I am a BBQ snob. Since we dominate BBQ it is hard to eat other BBQ.

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    An Atlanta area urban planner critiques Suntrust Park/The Battery:

    http://deadspin.com/the-braves-new-b...are-1797593063

    Attached to SunTrust Park like a Cinnabon-scented goiter is the Battery Atlanta, a $550M mixed-used development that looks an awful lot like a New Urbanist project, the widely criticized school of planning that is equal parts social engineering and neoliberalism. New Urbanism is city planning as Truman Show, attempting to humanize and rescale the misguided master planning concepts favored by designers like Le Corbusier. Cities like Seaside, Fla.,—where the Truman Show was partially filmed—and Disney-designed Celebration are attempts to urbanize the suburbs by integrating venerable concepts like transit-oriented design into communities cut from whole cloth. What many of these inorganic communities lack, however, is true diversity. Studies show that homes in New Urbanism communities are often expensive and the communities are more racially homogeneous than urban neighborhoods. “New Urbanism takes seriously many challenges of America’s current suburban landscape with an attention to the human scale, historical references, and architectural character,” says Ashley Bigham, a Walter B. Sanders Fellow at the University of Michigan’s architecture school and co-founder of Outpost Office. “However, many critics of New Urbanism have noted that relying on a historical understanding of urban spaces limits, if not excludes, more contemporary aspects of the city including individual expression and economic diversity.” Planting a project like the Battery in the middle of Cobb County (62 percent white at the last census, compared to 38 percent for Atlanta) only serves to amplify those issues.

    [...]

    SunTrust Park is an evolution of that “otherness” that the Atlanta suburbs originally represented, a stadium that wants as much to do with its team’s namesake city as the county that’s paying its bills. It still remains to be seen how tight that embrace will be when the team eventually becomes relevant again. As Jason Henderson noted in our conversation, “If the Braves win a World Series, where are they having the parade?


    [...]

    Givens also laments the potential lack of diversity at games now that transit options are meager. “When the Braves were at Turner Field, it would have been one of the few opportunities for people from largely-white Cobb to mix face-to-face with people of color and people in lower economic classes,” he said. “You didn’t need to own a car. You could take a MARTA bus there, or even walk if you lived in Summerhill, Peoplestown, or Mechanicsville—all neighborhoods where most residents are historically black and lower-income.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    An Atlanta area urban planner critiques Suntrust Park/The Battery:

    http://deadspin.com/the-braves-new-b...are-1797593063

    Attached to SunTrust Park like a Cinnabon-scented goiter is the Battery Atlanta, a $550M mixed-used development that looks an awful lot like a New Urbanist project, the widely criticized school of planning that is equal parts social engineering and neoliberalism. New Urbanism is city planning as Truman Show, attempting to humanize and rescale the misguided master planning concepts favored by designers like Le Corbusier. Cities like Seaside, Fla.,—where the Truman Show was partially filmed—and Disney-designed Celebration are attempts to urbanize the suburbs by integrating venerable concepts like transit-oriented design into communities cut from whole cloth. What many of these inorganic communities lack, however, is true diversity. Studies show that homes in New Urbanism communities are often expensive and the communities are more racially homogeneous than urban neighborhoods. “New Urbanism takes seriously many challenges of America’s current suburban landscape with an attention to the human scale, historical references, and architectural character,” says Ashley Bigham, a Walter B. Sanders Fellow at the University of Michigan’s architecture school and co-founder of Outpost Office. “However, many critics of New Urbanism have noted that relying on a historical understanding of urban spaces limits, if not excludes, more contemporary aspects of the city including individual expression and economic diversity.” Planting a project like the Battery in the middle of Cobb County (62 percent white at the last census, compared to 38 percent for Atlanta) only serves to amplify those issues.

    [...]

    SunTrust Park is an evolution of that “otherness” that the Atlanta suburbs originally represented, a stadium that wants as much to do with its team’s namesake city as the county that’s paying its bills. It still remains to be seen how tight that embrace will be when the team eventually becomes relevant again. As Jason Henderson noted in our conversation, “If the Braves win a World Series, where are they having the parade?


    [...]

    Givens also laments the potential lack of diversity at games now that transit options are meager. “When the Braves were at Turner Field, it would have been one of the few opportunities for people from largely-white Cobb to mix face-to-face with people of color and people in lower economic classes,” he said. “You didn’t need to own a car. You could take a MARTA bus there, or even walk if you lived in Summerhill, Peoplestown, or Mechanicsville—all neighborhoods where most residents are historically black and lower-income.”

    [MENTION=108]jpx7[/MENTION] [MENTION=4]Julio3000[/MENTION]
    Ouch.

    Obviously there's a lot of planning that went into the project, it's probably pretty prefab and sterile. And wouldn't we all have loved to have seen organically generated development around the Ted? Certainly that would have had a flavor more representative of the city than the "Cinnabon-scented goiter" (LOLOL) that they're developing now.

    But you know what? Summerhill, independent developers, the city of Atlanta had twenty years (50, really) to work it out. And AFCS and Turner Field was a dismal failure, even with a premier baseball organization as the engine for redevelopment.

    **** 'em. And have the parade at the Battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    An Atlanta area urban planner critiques Suntrust Park/The Battery:

    http://deadspin.com/the-braves-new-b...are-1797593063

    Attached to SunTrust Park like a Cinnabon-scented goiter is the Battery Atlanta, a $550M mixed-used development that looks an awful lot like a New Urbanist project, the widely criticized school of planning that is equal parts social engineering and neoliberalism. New Urbanism is city planning as Truman Show, attempting to humanize and rescale the misguided master planning concepts favored by designers like Le Corbusier. Cities like Seaside, Fla.,—where the Truman Show was partially filmed—and Disney-designed Celebration are attempts to urbanize the suburbs by integrating venerable concepts like transit-oriented design into communities cut from whole cloth. What many of these inorganic communities lack, however, is true diversity. Studies show that homes in New Urbanism communities are often expensive and the communities are more racially homogeneous than urban neighborhoods. “New Urbanism takes seriously many challenges of America’s current suburban landscape with an attention to the human scale, historical references, and architectural character,” says Ashley Bigham, a Walter B. Sanders Fellow at the University of Michigan’s architecture school and co-founder of Outpost Office. “However, many critics of New Urbanism have noted that relying on a historical understanding of urban spaces limits, if not excludes, more contemporary aspects of the city including individual expression and economic diversity.” Planting a project like the Battery in the middle of Cobb County (62 percent white at the last census, compared to 38 percent for Atlanta) only serves to amplify those issues.

    [...]

    SunTrust Park is an evolution of that “otherness” that the Atlanta suburbs originally represented, a stadium that wants as much to do with its team’s namesake city as the county that’s paying its bills. It still remains to be seen how tight that embrace will be when the team eventually becomes relevant again. As Jason Henderson noted in our conversation, “If the Braves win a World Series, where are they having the parade?


    [...]

    Givens also laments the potential lack of diversity at games now that transit options are meager. “When the Braves were at Turner Field, it would have been one of the few opportunities for people from largely-white Cobb to mix face-to-face with people of color and people in lower economic classes,” he said. “You didn’t need to own a car. You could take a MARTA bus there, or even walk if you lived in Summerhill, Peoplestown, or Mechanicsville—all neighborhoods where most residents are historically black and lower-income.”

    [MENTION=108]jpx7[/MENTION] [MENTION=4]Julio3000[/MENTION]
    The author makes the faulty assumption that crowds were diverse at Turner Field.

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