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    i thought it a real risk that trout would leave LA and come home to philly. so we should be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    i thought it a real risk that trout would leave LA and come home to philly. so we should be happy.
    I actually didnt think he would, i thought the Philly stuff was always media related. Trout doesnt like the media coverage. He likes LA. He's a loyal dude, that money of course helps though.

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    Now the question must be asked, how much would it cost to extend Acuna?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    i thought it a real risk that trout would leave LA and come home to philly. so we should be happy.
    Life in SoCal is sweet. Life in Philly is nasty, brutish and short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    I actually didnt think he would, i thought the Philly stuff was always media related. Trout doesnt like the media coverage. He likes LA. He's a loyal dude, that money of course helps though.
    yeah, but he does love philly and all its sports, and is friends with harper.
    i thought he would most likely stay in LA. but not gonna say i didn't think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Now the question must be asked, how much would it cost to extend Acuna?
    would we be able to get away with a 12-year, $250 million extension? Lol

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    Man, I remember being shocked with Frank Thomas's 9-year $80M extension in 1997 with the White Sox, and other owners being pissed at the White Sox for raising the salary ceiling that dramatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    That's all it took???

    Wouldn’t mind having him, really though....we need to see which of these young guys can stick. Let the cream rise to the top. We have enough pitchers that two will easily distance themselves and provide as much or (probably better) production than an older Gio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salmagundy View Post
    A minor league dea??

    7:15pm: Rather stunningly, the deal is likely to be a minors agreement, per Joel Sherman of the New York Post (Twitter link). Gonzalez would earn $3MM in the majors with games-started incentives that could boost the earnings, per Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). The deal includes an April 20th opt-out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Totally off topic, I wonder how long we let Ozzie switch hit if his LH problems continue.
    Didnt Hart express concerns about this 2 years ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Didnt Hart express concerns about this 2 years ago?
    Believe so. The LH struggles definitely aren't new.

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    Ozzie is better RH imo as well, he seems much more comfortable from the right side.

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    It's not a lot of data (670 PAs as LHH, 256 PAs as RHH), but the main differences seem to be be:

    1. Albies hits the ball in the air as a LHH more often than as a RHH (43% vs 34%).
    2. Ablies hits the ball harder as a RHH than a LHH (93.5 MPH to 90.4 MPH).

    Simply put (as has been the case from day 1), he hits the ball in the air too often as a LHH. It has to stop or he won't be the player he capable of being.

    I won't pretend to have an answer as to how he accomplishes that goal, but that's what hitting coaches are paid to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    While I'm not the biggest Gio fan... he's still a 2.5 to 4 WAR pitcher after a bit of a down year last year (2 fWAR). And I'd say over all the past 3 years, he's been better and more consistent than Keuchel
    This is about what I pictured Gio signing for, which is why I believed him to be a very viable target for Atlanta.

    I understand that the Braves have a lot of arms, but so what. At this price point, there isn't really much advantage to promoting a young guy instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Even with all the injuries we are choosing between Teheran, Newk, Fried, Touki, Wilson and Wright. How does a Gio who has yet to pitch an inning this spring help.
    This is an easy answer.

    He was a 3 win pitcher for almost his whole career before dipping to a 2 win pitcher last year.

    Even at that rate of performance, he's a bargain under this deal. If he's totally lost it, it's a negligible risk though there is no particular reason to believe that will be the case. If he what he is last year, he's roughly equivalent to Newcomb, better than Teheran, and a better bet to hold up and perform at that level or better than any of the Braves young pitching making their first bones in the league.

    At worst, he blows up 4-5 times and delays some clocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    This is an easy answer.

    He was a 3 win pitcher for almost his whole career before dipping to a 2 win pitcher last year.

    Even at that rate of performance, he's a bargain under this deal. If he's totally lost it, it's a negligible risk though there is no particular reason to believe that will be the case. If he what he is last year, he's roughly equivalent to Newcomb, better than Teheran, and a better bet to hold up and perform at that level or better than any of the Braves young pitching making their first bones in the league.

    At worst, he blows up 4-5 times and delays some clocks.
    except he won't be ready until about the time Gausman and Folty are both back in the rotation
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    While i agree Gio at that price is a bargain, we need to see what we have in some of these arms.

    Braves invested so much time in developing them, risky bet to be sure, but could pay off.

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    4 IP, 5 H, 1 BB, 0 runs, 5 K's in just 30 pitches today.

    For Max Fried today, has he done enough to win a SP spot?

    Julio, Newk, Gaus?, Fried, Wright opening 5?

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    Update: 5 IP, 5 H, 1 walk, 0 runs, 7 K's for Fried. Not many of the Nats regulars are playing but still promising for Max.

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    There's zero reason Fried shouldn't be in the starting rotation. Dude is a beast.

    Also, Riley with a homer. Weird hitter. lol

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