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    Braves sign key OF on 1 year deal, option for 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    Big if true.

    Mods. Please move this thread to the pessimist section.
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    Cannot say I am surprised, yet a bit disheartened, by the signing. I thought we would try to improve. I hope that means Kimbrel gets a better look

    but it is he'll earn $4M in 2019 with a $6M option for 2020 or a $2M buyout.
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    well i'm a hoarder (when it comes to prospect capital) so i am good with this
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    well i'm a hoarder (when it comes to prospect capital) so i am good with this
    Assuming we upgrade somewhere else, I'm ok with it

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    Great signing! The best thing this team has done in a long time was sign Markakis. Second best thing is extending him at least another year. Steamers, Zips, Baseball Almanac, and MLB Pulse have all adjusted the Braves implied win total a full 3 games.

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    The cost is right for sure. He could be a 4th OF at that price.

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    Solid signing considering the price. With Riley in the wings (assuming he's not traded) and Camargo on the roster, there are other OF options if Markakis collapses.

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    Pretty good value there but it's still a meh signing.

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    Not impressed. We upgrade at 3B and downgrade at C and cOF. I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    well i'm a hoarder (when it comes to prospect capital) so i am good with this
    Obviously we need to donate some of those to Marlins for JTR.

    Only fair to spread the wealth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    well i'm a hoarder (when it comes to prospect capital) so i am good with this

    At 4m, you are giving him bench money. He's a known personality fit for the team. I don't expect a repeat of last season, but I don't see it being too farfetched that he repeats a decent percentage of what he did last season. I do not think it was as fluky or as one month dependent as the general perception ---though I would certainly bet there is some regression.

    I don't think his signing particularly prevents them from doing anything that people were talking about yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Obviously we need to donate some of those to Marlins for JTR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I don't think his signing particularly prevents them from doing anything that people were talking about yesterday.
    well it almost definitely stops the pursuit for an upgrade at corner OF. it's bench money, but is he going to be our bench guy? i doubt it.
    the problem isn't the money, it's the fact that you've essentially downgraded the corner OF spot from last year when you had the resources to upgrade it. without another big move in the pipeline, this isn't good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    well it almost definitely stops the pursuit for an upgrade at corner OF. it's bench money, but is he going to be our bench guy? i doubt it.
    the problem isn't the money, it's the fact that you've essentially downgraded the corner OF spot from last year when you had the resources to upgrade it. without another big move in the pipeline, this isn't good.
    How is it a downgrade if you have the same exact player???
    which is smarter, McCutchen at 3 years 50M or Nick at 1 year 4M with option and buyout? remember McCuthen hit .255 with 20 homers last season Markakis hit .297 with 14 Homers. I'll take Nick when looked at in that light

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    Quote Originally Posted by depley View Post
    How is it a downgrade if you have the same exact player???
    which is smarter, McCutchen at 3 years 50M or Nick at 1 year 4M with option and buyout? remember McCuthen hit .255 with 20 homers last season Markakis hit .297 with 14 Homers. I'll take Nick when looked at in that light
    Because nobody expects Neck to have the same type of season. So yeah if Neck performs like he did from 15-17 with the Braves or like he is projected to play in 2019 then it will be a downgrade from his 2018 performance. The main difference is this year he should actually be a good value with his contract.

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    Something else about Neck the great. He just needs 5 more Neck-like seasons to get to 3000 hits. Lets do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Because nobody expects Neck to have the same type of season. So yeah if Neck performs like he did from 15-17 with the Braves or like he is projected to play in 2019 then it will be a downgrade from his 2018 performance. The main difference is this year he should actually be a good value with his contract.

    The real unknown is how much worse Markakis will be in 2019 than 2018.

    I'd much rather risk 6m and no commitment on the chance of Markakis being a 1.5-2 Win player than on betting on 3 years of McCutchen at 16m per.

    Particularly since the amount of money committed to Markakis does not prevent them from signing or trading over him.

    If McCutchen were to flame out the Braves would not have much flexibility to obtain an external upgrade.

    I'd probably have done the Brantley deal though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    The real unknown is how much worse Markakis will be in 2019 than 2018.

    I'd much rather risk 6m and no commitment on the chance of Markakis being a 1.5-2 Win player than on betting on 3 years of McCutchen at 16m per.

    Particularly since the amount of money committed to Markakis does not prevent them from signing or trading over him.

    If McCutchen were to flame out the Braves would not have much flexibility to obtain an external upgrade.

    I'd probably have done the Brantley deal though.
    do you really still think the braves might sign a guy to start over markakis? i strongly doubt that's being considered anymore. i doubt he signed on to be a bench guy.

    i'd rather shoot for a higher upside. nick likely won't touch 2 WAR. i pray i'm wrong. he'll be right around 1-1.5, but yay for "good value."
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