GDT: Cubs @ Braves 5/15

[bravesfanMatt]

Ozzie’s fault. He blocked the best view. We should bench him. But seriously. It is over. We need to move on.

[thewupk]

Ozzie’s fault. He blocked the best view. We should bench him. But seriously. It is over. We need to move on.

I thought they same thing but it's still obvious. You know you ****ed up when literally everyone on the planet knows you got the call wrong.

[nsacpi]

Seems like folks agitate against the way closers are used and then the first time they blow up want to put the next guy they perceive as the best pitcher right back in the same role.

I can live with Viz closing so long as he is mostly effective. Winkler may be more valuable matching up when he's needed and putting out fires than he would be starting clean innings with leads.

the other thing is with his injury history I think we need to be conservative about the load Winkler is given...id be ok with him being a part time closer

[thewupk]

Even my wife who has a basic understanding of safe and out saw it as safe. Just absurd that 'professionals' didn't see this.

[Super]

Even my wife who has a basic understanding of safe and out saw it as safe. Just absurd that 'professionals' didn't see this.

the ump at home made the wrong call. it happens.
new york stayed with the call in order to not show up their ump.
there's no other explanation

[Five]

To be a serious WS contender we’ll have to acquire a legit closer bc we don’t have one on the roster imo.

Agree. Plus one more front end starter.

[Enscheff]

Agree. Plus one more front end starter.

And what would you suggest the Braves would have to pay to acquire a "front end starter"?

[Five]

And what would you suggest the Braves would have to pay to acquire a "front end starter"?

Not listen to anything you have to say.

[bravesfanMatt]

[Orphan Black]

Some people are saying he was tagged on the helmet before the shoulder and that's what made him out. They say his helmet seemed to flap down when Montgomery's glove went by it and that proves he tagged his helmet. I thought the helmet went down because he did the belly flopped slide.

[zitothebrave]

Why are people complaining about Viz? I mean he's not Kimbrel, but he's hardly a bum.

If you have a chance to add Kimbrel for pretty cheap, you do it. but I don't think Boston will be sellers and I don't think he'd be cheap. I'd much rather just ride Viz.

[Ozzie Swanson]

Why are people complaining about Viz? I mean he's not Kimbrel, but he's hardly a bum.

If you have a chance to add Kimbrel for pretty cheap, you do it. but I don't think Boston will be sellers and I don't think he'd be cheap. I'd much rather just ride Viz.

Viz is a good reliever but I don't like him in the closer/highest leverage inning role. He throws gas but is prone to losing his slider and I don't like having a one pitch pitcher in that role. I'd prefer Winkler close games or get the most important inning with Minter/Viz/Carle handling the set up innings.

[thewupk]

Some people are saying he was tagged on the helmet before the shoulder and that's what made him out. They say his helmet seemed to flap down when Montgomery's glove went by it and that proves he tagged his helmet. I thought the helmet went down because he did the belly flopped slide.

That's exactly how it happened.

[Enscheff]

Some people are saying he was tagged on the helmet before the shoulder and that's what made him out. They say his helmet seemed to flap down when Montgomery's glove went by it and that proves he tagged his helmet. I thought the helmet went down because he did the belly flopped slide.

I kept focusing on the pitcher's glove to see if it deformed on the tag. I couldn't really tell, but a helmet tag is the only thing that makes the out call even remotely
plausible.

[Enscheff]

Not listen to anything you have to say.

Random guy thinks Braves should acquire TOR SP, then offers no suggestions on how to make it happen. Thanks!

[Five]

Random guy thinks Braves should acquire TOR SP, then offers no suggestions on how to make it happen. Thanks!

Been around since Shanks’ board, but thanks!

Anyone else asks, sure I’d give an explanation. You? Waste of time.

[CyYoung31]

I kept focusing on the pitcher's glove to see if it deformed on the tag. I couldn't really tell, but a helmet tag is the only thing that makes the out call even remotely
plausible.

But then you have the issue of there not being overwhelming evidence. Any way you look at it, it was a terrible call.

I’d like to hear an explanation by the league office.

[Enscheff]

But then you have the issue of there not being overwhelming evidence. Any way you look at it, it was a terrible call.

I’d like to hear an explanation by the league office.

Overwhelming evidence is required to overturn a call, not uphold it.

If we can't tell for sure he didn't tag the helmet, there is no overwhelming evidence that he didn't. There is no angle that shows the glove clearly missing the helmet with air between them. Therefore, play stands.

[Enscheff]

Been around since Shanks’ board, but thanks!

Anyone else asks, sure I’d give an explanation. You? Waste of time.

LOL, well I'll be on the edge of my seat hoping someone asks and I can read your thoughts that are sure to be well thought out pearls of wisdom! A baseball genius hiding in the weeds!!

[CyYoung31]

Overwhelming evidence is required to overturn a call, not uphold it.

If we can't tell for sure he didn't tag the helmet, there is no overwhelming evidence that he didn't. There is no angle that shows the glove clearly missing the helmet with air between them. Therefore, play stands.

Right. I didn’t watch the game and forgot the initial call was out.

Still, the whole “overwhelming” evidence thing hasn’t been very consistent towards the Braves so far this year.