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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Flaherty at backup 3b and culberson at backup in LF and culberson/santana/flaherty at PH... no room, brah. We stacked
    Literally everyone here was calling for Bautista to be DFA'd when it happened. And I mean literally everyone. Hell, most were lambasting the signing to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    DOB is leaving the AJC for the Athletic.
    He won't be missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Literally everyone here was calling for Bautista to be DFA'd when it happened. And I mean literally everyone. Hell, most were lambasting the signing to begin with.
    I wanted Camargo to start at 3b. I didn't want Bautista DFA'd over flaherty, I assure you. I wanted to rid ourselves of flaherty like the 2nd game in a row he went hitless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Literally everyone here was calling for Bautista to be DFA'd when it happened. And I mean literally everyone. Hell, most were lambasting the signing to begin with.
    http://www.chopcountry.com/forums/sh...autista&page=3

    I even called an .800 ops for Bautista the rest of the year for the Mets

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    Bautista is rocking a .339 BABIP with the Mets over 125 PAs.

    His “pull everything in the air” approach is likely to produce a BABIP around .250.

    Do we really have to go over BABIP regression again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Bautista is rocking a .339 BABIP with the Mets over 125 PAs.

    His “pull everything in the air” approach is likely to produce a BABIP around .250.

    Do we really have to go over BABIP regression again?
    He’s also spotting a 20% BB rate. I’m not shedding any tears with him gone (Camargo was and is a much better option), but credit to Bautista and the Mets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Bautista is rocking a .339 BABIP with the Mets over 125 PAs.

    His “pull everything in the air” approach is likely to produce a BABIP around .250.

    Do we really have to go over BABIP regression again?
    After the regression, will he be better or worse than flaherty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    He won't be missed.
    I haven’t appreciated his work much since the rebuild as he’s seemingly been worn to the nubs by Twitter eggs. But I always thought he was mostly likeable and appreciated his attempt to show his personality with his work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    http://www.chopcountry.com/forums/sh...autista&page=3

    I even called an .800 ops for Bautista the rest of the year for the Mets
    So now we’re going to pretend that prediction was legit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    So now we’re going to pretend that prediction was legit?
    Lol... oh, I believed it. Simply bc he went to a division rival

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    After the regression, will he be better or worse than flaherty?
    At 3b? Against RHPs, since Camargo would be playing against LHPs? Or would you prefer he get those PAs that Camargo should be getting?

    Maybe.

    I’m not going to shed a tear over losing Bautista, which caused Flaherty to get a handful of PAs.

    This is just another episode in “The Braves are struggling right now so we are going to overreact to every little thing” series. It will be followed up in a couple weeks with episodes from “The Braves are rolling so we are going to pimp every single positive aspect of every single player”.

    I swear, the ups and downs around here are laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    At 3b? Against RHPs, since Camargo would be playing against LHPs? Or would you prefer he get those PAs that Camargo should be getting?

    Maybe.

    I’m not going to shed a tear over losing Bautista, which caused Flaherty to get a handful of PAs.

    This is just another episode in “The Braves are struggling right now so we are going to overreact to every little thing” series. It will be followed up in a couple weeks with episodes from “The Braves are rolling so we are going to pimp every single positive aspect of every single player”.

    I swear, the ups and downs around here are laughable.
    I'm not crying over bautista. I just found it odd at the time to cut him over flaherty. When Camargo doesn't start at 3b, we start culberson there. Flaherty is strictly a bench bat, and a terrible one at that. Bautista would be a better bench bat than flaherty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    After the regression, will he be better or worse than flaherty?
    Listen, for all we know he wasn't going to accept a bench assignment. So I don't even think it's worth debating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    Listen, for all we know he wasn't going to accept a bench assignment. So I don't even think it's worth debating.
    Couldn't pretty much 90% of the debates here come down to "for all we know..."?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    what about All-Star Nick Markakis?
    There was a few people who liked the move and everyone else hated him. I’ve been one of his biggest fans. Glad everyone else got on the bandwagon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    There was a few people who liked the move and everyone else hated him. I’ve been one of his biggest fans. Glad everyone else got on the bandwagon.
    You like someone on the braves? You hid it well
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    Giants cleared some salary..wonder if they are looking to add someone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    https://www.baseballprospectus.com/n...t-july-5-2018/

    Nats are playing like a 45-46 win team, and have only won 42.

    Phils are playing like a ~44 win team and have lucked into 47 wins.

    The Braves have played like a ~50 win team, and have won 49 games.

    I expect the Nats to get healthy and surge at some point, and the Phils to fade. The Braves are legit contenders and I really hope they add responsibly at the deadline.
    velasquez is also the first starter of theirs to spend time on the DL, i believe. i think they're decent but bound to tumble.
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    2012 32 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim $12,000,000 11.000 contracts
    2013 33 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim $16,000,000 12.000 contracts
    2014 34 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim $23,000,000 13.000 contracts
    2015 35 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim $24,000,000 14.000 contracts
    2016 36 Los Angeles Angels $25,000,000 15.000
    2017 37 Los Angeles Angels $26,000,000 16.000 contracts
    2018 38 Los Angeles Angels $27,000,000 17.000


    2019 39 Los Angeles Angels $28,000,000
    2020 40 Los Angeles Angels $29,000,000
    2021 41 Los Angeles Angels $30,000,000

    10-year, $10M personal-services contract begins once player contract expires

    ......

    This according to Baseball Reference is Albert Pujols contract.

    I remember knowing this was an awful contract when it was signed. In 2017, Pujols had a -1.4 WAR season. He's roughly on track for a similar offensive profile this year.

    My question is how does a team convince themselves to do this? The Angels finished 10 games out the year before acquiring him. They finished five games out and third in their division the year after.

    My assumption is that they backloaded this deal because of payroll concerns. No one seems to love to frontload as far better I guess in the short term to get all the benefit with none of the cost and you'll think about the bill later.

    But for a team considering this kind of acquisition, how can you not backload it. I think I would never sign such a player unless I was in a position to backload.

    If you reversed this deal and the Angels were paying him 23m, 16m, and 12m over the next three years, that would still be real bad, but so much better. Now you've got this huge money suck that you could be using to build a better team around Mike Trout.

    I know the reason front offices might like backloading, but I guess my question is whether player disfavor front loading also. Do they dislike making less money each season? The time value of money suggests you should want your money as soon as possible.

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    Atlanta only has 10 more road games left this year against non NL-East teams. They have racked up wins against the NL East, so this could bode well if they continue their success against their in-division rivals.

    The 10 Road Games:
    3 @ PIT
    4 @ ARI
    3 @ SF

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