Yes, Georgia would have no interest in underreporting data. Their test rate isn't great, and the virus has a loaded delay. I don't think you're wrong that the Virus was here early. But it took a long time to hit pandemic levels because it has a long load time. We'll see where we are in a few weeks. Again, the only cases we're seeing in most states are people ill enough to go to the hospital or well off enough to get tested and not care about the health care costs.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
I appreciate you saying that Zito. It was very clear to me the virus has been ripping through the population since q4 2019.
While this of course does not include the full population of positives the rate of positives informs us if enough testing is being done. Rate of 5% or lower are fantastic and if it is biased towards those that have severe conditions then I think that's an even better signs as it indicates the low lethality I've always thought this virus had.
Natural Immunity Croc
I don't think 2019, but it certainly was starting in late January/Early February. Where it was masked with normal seasonal influenza.
We won't want know the mortality rate of the virus. We only can look at total deaths, but we know we have had at least 66,000 deaths more than experected as of the end of April. We're gonna wind up with more expected deaths than WWI, of course not adjusted for population. But for another perspective. It's more poeple than have died in all wars and military interventions since Vietnam. It's nothing to turn your nose up at. And that is with protective measures in place to delay the strain on the medical system.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
They've shown propel that died in early January with COVID. With incubation period and the fact that the first person infected likely did not die its an easy lift to say it was here in q4.
Please be careful with excess mortality. We have no way of knowing yet the deats CAUSED by the lockdown.
Natural Immunity Croc
I mean how could a lockdown cause more death. Be real. How could limiting exposure cause more death? When we know that large gatherings of people have lead directly to numbers of people gathering and illness. USA was lucky that this didn't break in September during the MLB playoffs and NFL season. One of the reasons places like the UK and Italy were hit so hard was because of their Soccer clubs and very familiar behavior. There's no remote evidence that lockdown causes any extra deaths. If anything our **** healthcare system and working poor class caused deaths cause of lockdown more than the lockdown.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Excess mortality in Sweden indicates official COVID data are understating deaths by about 30%. Similar to other countries.
Carp (05-19-2020)
I was glad to see Notre Dame moving forward with fall classes. They will implement a comprehensive program of testing, tracing and quarantine as part of that.
I hope other schools end up in a similar place. They will have to have contingency plans for going online for a given class if there is a need. But hopefully as many schools as possible open up this fall.
Spain looks to have the lowest rate in the table Ginn referenced. I'm not really sure the data mean much. Practices regarding testing children probably varied widely by country and drove the data.