Were they alive during the Civil War and fought for the confederacy? This is not a good comparison. Are there statues erected of British officers and soldiers who fought against American patriots? Not many that I know of. While their owning slaves was of course detestable, I'm not sure you can put honoring the Founding Fathers on the same level as honoring people who fought to break up the country in order to keep their slaves, which is the general perception of most folks today I would say. There's a decidedly different racial element to honoring the Confederacy.
Saying that, I don't much care for the removal of these statues myself. I'm a big fan of our shared history, and not a fan of sweeping our darker moments under the rug. I find the Civil War and Confederacy tragically fascinating. I live near some important battlefields in Virginia and the history is palpable at times. Heck, I live within minutes of where they buried Stonewall Jackson's arm!
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AerchAngel (08-15-2017), bravesnumberone (08-15-2017)
Please tell me somebody else is watching this press conference.
No. I support an agreement between countries within the extremely small European continent to allow easy travel and economic opportunities. That's where I draw my line. I find it necessary for them due to geographic constraints and historical ties. I don't think the U.S. should be part of the European Union. And I don't want to see all those countries dissolved and become one big Francogermanglospanitland because I love their individual historical identities and cultures. But I believe they should share those cultures freely among themselves due to their closeknit history on the same small intimate continent.
AerchAngel (08-15-2017), Jaw (08-16-2017)
nazi bad
nazi violence is bad
hate speech is bad
hate speech is free speech
free speech is good
violence against free speech is bad
This is the argument. Trump had some pieces of the argument but rather than make that argument in any coherent way he just vomited all over the place. Trying to defend anyone who attended that rally is absurd. Everyone knew who was going to that rally.
Dalyn (08-15-2017)
TRUMP: Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at us – excuse me – what about the alt-left that came charging at the, as you say, the alt right? Do they have any semblance of guilt?
Us?
Dalyn (08-15-2017)
DaneHill (08-15-2017)
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Runnin (08-15-2017), The Chosen One (08-15-2017)
Temperment?