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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    If that's all you've gleaned from what I've personally written then it's really not worth typing words in your direction anymore.
    Geez guys...you are taking that post way too seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ESP47 View Post
    I have a black friend, so...
    Said virtually everybody in this thread.

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    I don't have many black friends... Other than a few folks I play bball with - but nobody I really hang out with on a regular basis.

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    My last friend was Oklahoma Hawk and ---- where did he go?

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    More than a few bad apples

    From this here article:



    The entire post is worth a read, for the statistics—though ignore the awkward fawning over Eric Holder at the conclusion.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    The entire post is worth a read, for the statistics
    A majority of the statistics on the infographic are harvested from a DoJ study conducted in 2000, which seems tenuously relevant at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    A majority of the statistics on the infographic are harvested from a DoJ study conducted in 2000, which seems tenuously relevant at best.
    So it's safe to assume it's significantly worse today

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    So it's safe to assume it's significantly worse today
    What is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    A majority of the statistics on the infographic are harvested from a DoJ study conducted in 2000, which seems tenuously relevant at best.
    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    So it's safe to assume it's significantly worse today
    I'd agree with sturg here.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    I'd agree with sturg here.
    Repeated: On what, exactly?

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    The cop didnt have a broken eye
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...-Michael-Brown

    and the police department confirms Wilson was shot at while running away. Please note last sentence

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...s-He-Ran-Away#

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Crickets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Crickets...
    While I don't necessarily disagree with the point you guys are trying to make....a 12 person sample (with no context provided) in a country of 300+ million people? I don't think that sort of cherry picking moves the conversation in a productive direction.

    I tend not to respond to memes because most of them are stupid and lazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    While I don't necessarily disagree with the point you guys are trying to make....a 12 person sample (with no context provided) in a country of 300+ million people? I don't think that sort of cherry picking moves the conversation in a productive direction.

    I tend not to respond to memes because most of them are stupid and lazy.
    Totally agreed. But I love the lack of responses. It did make me think though about some of the most heinous murders who were apprehended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I don't have many black friends... Other than a few folks I play bball with - but nobody I really hang out with on a regular basis.
    We have hardly any blacks in my town. It's easy to double take when you DO see them as it's so rare. I personally wish there were more, as all the blacks I've known personally are wonderful people.

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    In the rather less-than-adequately integrated town where I grew up, it didn't take much conversation with black guys of my age to learn about the Jump-Out Boys—cops, all white, who cruised the black neighborhoods and frisked and harassed young men who had the temerity to be walking the streets.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm sensitive to the predicament of the police—they're public servants doing a dangerous job who are usually overworked and underpaid. Like I said in the other thread, my brother is a cop. It's easy for me to put him in the place of a shooter in a situation like this. Still, anyone who is suggesting that there isn't a cruel double standard based on race and class, applied to blacks in the criminal justice system, is being willfully obtuse. It's a negative-feedback loop. The message that you won't get a fair shake from the the cops is reinforced in certain segments of society, and it all too often plays out tragically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Cops aren't really at relative risk of death in those countries though. The comparison is pretty much worthless because of that.

    So what do we need to do to decrease the risk of cop deaths in the country so that we can in turn decrease the risk of deaths caused by police in this country. Are we willing to have that conversation? I doubt it.
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    What you are saying is -- if the cops aren't threatened by guns there would be no need for cops to respond with guns.

    do I understand you right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    What you are saying is -- if the cops aren't threatened by guns there would be no need for cops to respond with guns.

    do I understand you right?
    No, I'm saying that there's a concerted effort in this country by those in governmental power to remove all guns from the homes of all Americans. Notice how much ammo "Homeland Security" has been purchasing lately. Their goal is to eventually contain us with their weapons when we have no ability to defend ourselves.
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