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    John Hart Hired By The Braves

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    The #Braves have hired John Hart as Senior Advisor, Baseball Operations.
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    The good old boy club expands ... Hart made some terrible trades as a GM (the most glaring: Brian Giles for Ricardo Rincon and Travis Hafner for Einar Diaz and Ryan Drese) but is supposedly fairly respected in his current role.

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    John Hart, the man that stole A-Rod from us overnight in 2000.

    (Of course in hindsight it was probably a great move for us).
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    Always good to have differing opinions in top levels of management IMO.
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    His experience and background make him a good replacement for Balderson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    The good old boy club expands ... Hart made some terrible trades as a GM (the most glaring: Brian Giles for Ricardo Rincon and Travis Hafner for Einar Diaz and Ryan Drese) but is supposedly fairly respected in his current role.
    Can't ever have enough former GMs on the payroll - can't learn from mistakes until you've made them on your own. That kind of experience is great to have when Wren's on the fence about making potential moves.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    The good old boy club expands ... Hart made some terrible trades as a GM (the most glaring: Brian Giles for Ricardo Rincon and Travis Hafner for Einar Diaz and Ryan Drese) but is supposedly fairly respected in his current role.
    This is the kind of gold old boy network that we should get behind. What GM hasn't made bad trades? Since you're focused on the negative, he made an excellent trade at Braves expense by getting Justice & Grissom for Lofton & Embree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    This is the kind of gold old boy network that we should get behind. What GM hasn't made bad trades? Since you're focused on the negative, he made an excellent trade at Braves expense by getting Justice & Grissom for Lofton & Embree.

    For the record, I like John Hart and support this 'acquisition' -- just stating the facts -- full disclosure.

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    Interesting pick up.

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    If I'm not mistaken, Hart was the architect for several long-term contracts that bought out arbitration years for the Indians. Could just be coincidence.

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    And there is the Braves big move this off season.

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    It seems like a good move. I also like it for sentimental reasons: Hart was the manager of the old Charlotte O's back when Cal Ripken was playing double A ball and won a championship here. He always seemed like a good manager and baseball man. I wonder just how significant his involvement will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    John Hart, the man that stole A-Rod from us overnight in 2000.

    (Of course in hindsight it was probably a great move for us).
    Refresh my memory on this?

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    I'd rather have Jimmy "Mouth of the South" Hart. He could relay down instructions from the GM's box with his megaphone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewdat View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, Hart was the architect for several long-term contracts that bought out arbitration years for the Indians. Could just be coincidence.
    You're not mistaken. Hart was the architect of the Cleveland team that the Braves beat for their only Title (of late).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackwaterPark View Post
    Refresh my memory on this?
    We were the final team that was rumored to be signing A-Rod the year he was a free agent in 2000 (the year Manny signed with Boston, Neagle and Hampton to Colorado). We apparently offered him like 130 million for 7 years or something like that which was unheard of at the time.

    Well the old saying was "A-Rod went to sleep a Brave and woke up with a Rangers hat". Boras got Texas to do the 10 year 250 million deal overnight and the rest they say is history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    We were the final team that was rumored to be signing A-Rod the year he was a free agent in 2000 (the year Manny signed with Boston, Neagle and Hampton to Colorado). We apparently offered him like 130 million for 7 years or something like that which was unheard of at the time.

    Well the old saying was "A-Rod went to sleep a Brave and woke up with a Rangers hat". Boras got Texas to do the 10 year 250 million deal overnight and the rest they say is history.
    Except Hart didn't sign Arod. He became the Rangers GM the following year and promptly traded Arod 2 years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Except Hart didn't sign Arod. He became the Rangers GM the following year and promptly traded Arod 2 years later.
    This. And it was the Rangers owner, think his name was Adams, who overrode his GM and upped ARods money from 17M per from us to 25M from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Except Hart didn't sign Arod. He became the Rangers GM the following year and promptly traded Arod 2 years later.
    Crap. I was off by one year.
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