Official 2017 Trade Deadilne Thread

[thethe]

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of getting Verlander. I think he can be had for cheap (prospect wise) and think he's a good bounceback candidate.

I'd like to grab him, go to battle next year with:

Verlander
Julio
Folty
Dickey
Newcomb

That would be competitive, and would sell out 2019 - which is when I think we are ready to over take the division

As with anything I'd like to see what type of return is expected. But verlAnder makes a lot of sense right now.

[TheBravos]

I would say they have a deal in place that if they trade for say Gray...then they would trade Julio.

[Heyward]

"The perception of other teams is that the Braves would like to flip Teheran for prospects, but that in order to do so, Atlanta would need to acquire a comparable front-of-the-rotation starter," writes Olney. The Braves made contact with the Chicago White Sox about Jose Quintana before he was dealt to the Chicago Cubs, and they've also checked in with the Oakland Athletics about Sonny Gray, adds Olney.

[Heyward]

Gray
Newk
Lynn/Cobb in FA
Dickey
Folty

Would be solid next year with an addition at 3B.

[Carp]

Not sure why you trade Julio now. Seems like trading Julio and then trading for another pitcher like Gray, is just making a trade just to say you made a trade. Unless they know something about Julio or you're confident you can "win" both trades, I just don't want see why.

[sturg33]

Not sure why you trade Julio now. Seems like trading Julio and then trading for another pitcher like Gray, is just making a trade just to say you made a trade. Unless they know something about Julio or you're confident you can "win" both trades, I just don't want see why.

Coppy often doesn't make much sense

[Enscheff]

I read that as they won't move him without being able to replace him... which doesn't make a ton of sense to me either

This FO does nothing in an optimal way. Instead of trading him at max value during the rebuild, they wil ktrade him now at half value? And then pay full value to replace him with someone else?

Insanely poor process.

[thewupk]

Not sure why you trade Julio now. Seems like trading Julio and then trading for another pitcher like Gray, is just making a trade just to say you made a trade. Unless they know something about Julio or you're confident you can "win" both trades, I just don't want see why.

Pretty much

[TheBravos]

Just means if they get a haul...they will trade him and if they don't...they won't .

[zbhargrove]

Not saying Tucker is possible at all, but if you can replace a prospect like Albies with Tucker, would you be happy or not?

[zbhargrove]

Gray
Newk
Lynn/Cobb in FA
Dickey
Folty

Would be solid next year with an addition at 3B.

I like Cobb but I like Lynn's ground ball tendencies better. They are both TJ recoveries so I'm sure the FO will be in talks for both. Cobb probably has the bigger upside but being a fly ball pitcher makes me a bit nervous.

[Enscheff]

Not saying Tucker is possible at all, but if you can replace a prospect like Albies with Tucker, would you be happy or not?

Why would any contender trade for Teheran when they could have just traded for whichever pitcher the Braves end up getting?

It would take 2 trades tilted in the Braves favor for them to come out ahead, meaning 2 other teams have to mess up player valuation.

Under no scenario does this make sense.

[zbhargrove]

Why would any contender trade for Teheran when they could have just traded for whichever pitcher the Braves end up getting?

It would take 2 trades tilted in the Braves favor for them to come out ahead, meaning 2 other teams have to mess up player valuation.

Under no scenario does this make sense.

Did I not clearly ellude to the fact that Tucker is likely not possible? That wasn't my question.

They are asking about him. Maybe they prefer Teheran over Gray for some reason.

[Enscheff]

Did I not clearly ellude to the fact that Tucker is likely not possible? That wasn't my question.

They are asking about him. Maybe they prefer Teheran over Gray for some reason.

Teams are interested in buying low on Teheran. If the Braves sell him now they messed up even worse than they did when they decided to keep him through the rebuild.

Hopefully, compounding a mistake by making another mistake doesn't become the "Braves Way".

[sturg33]

Teams are interested in buying low on Teheran. If the Braves sell him now they messed up even worse than they did when they decided to keep him through the rebuild.

Hopefully, compounding a mistake by making another mistake doesn't become the "Braves Way".

I don't think his value gets any higher from here because I believe his values is more tied to his contract than his ability.

If we get a good offer, I'd sell

[Enscheff]

I don't think his value gets any higher from here because I believe his values is more tied to his contract than his ability.

If we get a good offer, I'd sell

That's fine, but what's a good offer? Why is the FO willing to sell now when the offers are undoubtedly going to be half of what they were at the beginning of the rebuild?

Just a poor process by the FO from the start. Very disappointing.

[zbhargrove]

Teams are interested in buying low on Teheran. If the Braves sell him now they messed up even worse than they did when they decided to keep him through the rebuild.

Hopefully, compounding a mistake by making another mistake doesn't become the "Braves Way".

Which still wasn't my question, but thanks.

[sturg33]

That's fine, but what's a good offer? Why is the FO willing to sell now when the offers are undoubtedly going to be half of what they were at the beginning of the rebuild?

Just a poor process by the FO from the start. Very disappointing.

I agree they messed up. But the past is the past. Just like with a stock, we have to look at expected value going forward.

Unless you think Julio is going to rebound significantly and rapidly, I'd sell him now to maximize the years left on his deal and the upside that another team is willing to gamble on.

If we can get a top 50 prospect + then I'm saying yes.

[WaitingFor2017]

So let's get this straight. They want to trade Julio at a low point.... then turn around and trade our actually solid prospects for another SP to replace him which weakens our farm and possibly our team if the pitcher doesn't perform.

If they can somehow get Tucker for Teheran (hah!) and then trade Albies in a package for a good SP, I'd be for it. You'd have the OF set for years to come, and you can always find a efficient 2B from the market or from within (should be Swanson moving Camargo to SS, but I'm wary of Camargo's BABIP). From here, just find a 3B and SP on the market.

[Enscheff]

I agree they messed up. But the past is the past. Just like with a stock, we have to look at expected value going forward.

Unless you think Julio is going to rebound significantly and rapidly, I'd sell him now to maximize the years left on his deal and the upside that another team is willing to gamble on.

If we can get a top 50 prospect + then I'm saying yes.

I agree I am probably letting the sunk cost of keeping Julio through the rebuild influence my preference to keep him now.