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    Piggly Wiggly! Definitely part of my childhood. They don't make it as far upstate as to where I grew up but it was always one of our provisioning stops on beach vacations.

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    maybe it is Roger Stone's turn "in the barrel"

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...es-the-fifth/#
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    yeah, just Trumpies
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    Here's a good one for thethe that offers some perspective on his obsession of the moment.

    Rep. Steve Chabot (R-OH) spent his allotted time reading a list of campaign contributions from Mueller folks to Democrats, then grilling Rosenstein on how it was reasonable to assume that the investigation was fair.

    This is Chabot in 1998, addressing Ken Starr and offering him the opportunity to explain why his political donations to Republicans didn't compromise his impartiality.

    "It seems pretty clear to me that there’s a strategy by Bill Clinton and his allies to demonize anybody who gets in their way—Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Henry Hyde; you, Judge Starr; this committee; even the press, to some extent. It’s everybody else’s fault, and everybody else is to blame—everybody except Bill Clinton, except the president.

    Now in criminal cases … it’s a pretty common practice to do this. If the facts of the case are against you, if your client is pretty clearly guilty, put the police on trial. ’They planted the evidence, the police are corrupt, they forced your client to sign the confession’—anything to get your client off the hook…

    Judge Starr, my question to you is this: How difficult is it for you, as an independent counsel, to do your job when you’re up against this onslaught, particularly when you’re limited in your ability to defend yourself and to defend the other prosecutors under you and to defend your staff in a public forum—limited, that is, until today?"

    This is not new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Here's a good one for thethe that offers some perspective on his obsession of the moment.

    Rep. Steve Chabot (R-OH) spent his allotted time reading a list of campaign contributions from Mueller folks to Democrats, then grilling Rosenstein on how it was reasonable to assume that the investigation was fair.

    This is Chabot in 1998, addressing Ken Starr and offering him the opportunity to explain why his political donations to Republicans didn't compromise his impartiality.

    "It seems pretty clear to me that there’s a strategy by Bill Clinton and his allies to demonize anybody who gets in their way—Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Henry Hyde; you, Judge Starr; this committee; even the press, to some extent. It’s everybody else’s fault, and everybody else is to blame—everybody except Bill Clinton, except the president.

    Now in criminal cases … it’s a pretty common practice to do this. If the facts of the case are against you, if your client is pretty clearly guilty, put the police on trial. ’They planted the evidence, the police are corrupt, they forced your client to sign the confession’—anything to get your client off the hook…

    Judge Starr, my question to you is this: How difficult is it for you, as an independent counsel, to do your job when you’re up against this onslaught, particularly when you’re limited in your ability to defend yourself and to defend the other prosecutors under you and to defend your staff in a public forum—limited, that is, until today?"

    This is not new.
    This perfectly encapsulates the real "witch hunt" here. Both parties have a rich history of talking out both sides of their mouth and that is one of the big problems in America.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...92a_story.html

    It's sad that you guys are ignoring what is happening. I'm sure the right was talking about insurance plans for Clinton. Please.

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    These were just 353 of the 10K texts. Can only imagine what those will include.

    But I know - Its just casual talk about creating an insurance policy in the event Trump wins the presidency. Nothing to see here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...92a_story.html

    It's sad that you guys are ignoring what is happening. I'm sure the right was talking about insurance plans for Clinton. Please.
    still haven't started your own topic on this and still talking about Clinton eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    still haven't started your own topic on this and still talking about Clinton eh?
    Keep ignoring the fact that fbi was/is planning a coup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Keep ignoring the fact that fbi was/is planning a coup.
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    lol
    Care to actually give a thoughtful response to what the 'insurance' comment was about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Care to actually give a thoughtful response to what the 'insurance' comment was about?
    i'll laugh again that you think the FBI was planning a coup

    sure


    what dictator playbook will you, your ilk and the orange piece of **** not play from to hold on to power?
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    i'll laugh again that you think the FBI was planning a coup

    sure


    what dictator playbook will you, your ilk and the orange piece of **** not play from to hold on to power?
    Good job avoiding the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Good job avoiding the question.
    i didn't avoid the question

    i answered it

    you think the FBI was planning a coup. your questioning shouldn't be taken seriously. i'm sure there is an alex jones forum to discuss such absurdity

    also, you still aren't on topic of this thread and keep talking about other things instead of starting your thread to discuss such silly theories
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    i didn't avoid the question

    i answered it

    you think the FBI was planning a coup. your questioning shouldn't be taken seriously. i'm sure there is an alex jones forum to discuss such absurdity

    also, you still aren't on topic of this thread and keep talking about other things instead of starting your thread to discuss such silly theories
    What was meant by insurance then? That's the question you won't answer and it's because you don't have one. It's pretty damming for skmeone to say this. And remember these are the messages that were released. What hasn't been released?

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    Also, talking about this is relevant to Russia collusion because the 'insurance ' could be framing the trump campaign (hello fake dossier) for colluding.

    If not then provide an explanation for insurance in the context of the text.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Care to actually give a thoughtful response to what the 'insurance' comment was about?
    Given that we don't have any more information or context, I'm going to leap to the conclusion that he had information that indicated that Trump or people around him were potentially compromised by the Russians.

    What's that you say? I don't have any evidence for that assumption? I'll just join the club, then. This is how it works, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Given that we don't have any more information or context, I'm going to leap to the conclusion that he had information that indicated that Trump or people around him were potentially compromised by the Russians.

    What's that you say? I don't have any evidence for that assumption? I'll just join the club, then. This is how it works, right?
    Just as possible as being framed. Still more to come out on the relationship between the doj and fusion gps.

    Keep ignoring everything that's coming out. Much more evidence of collusion on the dem side right now but let's ignore facts.

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