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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I love the smell of brainwash in the morning.
    Objective reality includes the following facts:

    • Planned Parenthood is not selling fetus parts for profit or otherwise.

    • Only three percent of Planned Parenthood’s activities involve abortions.

    • Per the Hyde Amendment, no federal funds can be used for abortions. And there’s no evidence that Planned Parenthood has done so.

    • Consequently, de-funding Planned Parenthood would put into jeopardy its ability to save lives and, germane to this issue, prevent abortions. The Washington Post editorial board concluded:

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post

    • Per the Hyde Amendment, no federal funds can be used for abortions. And there’s no evidence that Planned Parenthood has done so.
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    This one is pretty funny to me. So I get money... use it for purpose A (not abortions), then I have the money that would have been for purpose A, and use it for abortions.

    I hope you're less naive than you act

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    This one is pretty funny to me. So I get money... use it for purpose A (not abortions), then I have the money that would have been for purpose A, and use it for abortions.
    Prove it

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Prove it
    Are you serious?

    Any money gotten from the federal government indirectly funds abortions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Any money gotten from the federal government indirectly funds abortions.
    This is always going to be the crux of the attacks on Planned Parenthood—even though abortion-services represent a very small percentage of their service portfolio, and even though study after study demonstrates that (along with better and earlier sex-education) easier, cheaper access to contraceptive options (which is a much bigger part of what Planned Parenthood provides communities) is very positively correlated with a reduction in the number of abortions per capita in a given community.

    Personally, I could give a f u c k if "money gotten from the federal government indirectly funds abortions"—not because I'm callous to the unfortunate nature of aborting a fetus, but because of the two facts I stated above. (Those two facts, along with my firm belief that it is, ultimately, not my decision whether a woman aborts a fetus gestating within her body; and my further conviction that, if she elects to abort said fetus, I want the procedure to occur in a safe, sterile space by a doctor operating under legal auspices.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    This is always going to be the crux of the attacks on Planned Parenthood—even though abortion-services represent a very small percentage of their service portfolio, and even though study after study demonstrates that (along with better and earlier sex-education) easier, cheaper access to contraceptive options (which is a much bigger part of what Planned Parenthood provides communities) is very positively correlated with a reduction in the number of abortions per capita in a given community.

    Personally, I could give a f u c k if "money gotten from the federal government indirectly funds abortions"—not because I'm callous to the unfortunate nature of aborting a fetus, but because of the two facts I stated above. (Those two facts, along with my firm belief that it is, ultimately, not my decision whether a woman aborts a fetus gestating within her body; and my further conviction that, if she elects to abort said fetus, I want the procedure to occur in a safe, sterile space by a doctor operating under legal auspices.)
    And that's fine - from your point of view. We obviously have a huge philosophical difference on the role of government, so we will never agree on it

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    weird

    republicans are up in arms saying planned parenthood is profiting off killing babies

    the nra and their friends make a bunch of money by profiting off the death of actual children and no one says a damn thing
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