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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    its all legal as long as they declared it as far as I know.
    Yeah, I don’t think he’s even looking at a charge if he had registered under FARA and reported and paid taxes on the income. While I’m sure the money from the Party of Regions is not clean, there are no specific allegations in the indictment about that.

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    The banker from Chicago where Manaford sold the Secretary(ship) of the Army. Unbeknownst to , the Army.
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    Looks like the Peter W Smith angle, which has always seemed like a fairly big deal to me, has new legs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Looks like the Peter W Smith angle, which has always seemed like a fairly big deal to me, has new legs.
    Interesting to see how/if this develops. I always thought it was a sideshow. Figured he was getting scammed. The only interesting thing, IMO, was the link to Flynn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Looks like the Peter W Smith angle, which has always seemed like a fairly big deal to me, has new legs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
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    buzzfeed article and good analysis at lawfare blog
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    It has ran it's course.

    It is laughable still talking about this.

    It is like trying to find bread crumbs in a desert. Incompetence is like glaring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    It has ran it's course.

    It is laughable still talking about this.

    It is like trying to find bread crumbs in a desert. Incompetence is like glaring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    It has ran it's course.

    It is laughable still talking about this.

    It is like trying to find bread crumbs in a desert. Incompetence is like glaring.
    This is the exact mindset Trump has tried to achieve from the public by playing his stalling tactics. Purposely drag it out as long as you can until people get tired of hearing about it and think it's a waste of time.

    The amount of times Trump has said "I want to meet with Mueller, but they're not letting me" and his surrogates saying "it's time to wrap this investigation up" in the last year is all the proof you need to know they're stalling and trying to sway public opinion with this as long as possible. Because Trump knows Mueller is putting the pieces together (if not already solved the puzzle). Trump could have expedited this long ago by meeting with Mueller. But everyone except his supporters know he's too scared to sit down with Mueller because he doesn't know the dirt Mueller has on him so he can't bull**** his way out of that interview like he can at a campaign rally in front of his supporters. He can't just sit down across the table from Mueller and start saying "HILLARY LOCK HER UP!".
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    Mike Levin
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    Why isn’t it a bigger deal that Michael Cohen was

    the deputy finance chair of the Republican National Committee

    while he was being paid by Russian oligarchs and allegedly committing fraud?

    This is on the whole Republican Party.
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    When do we get to investigating election meddling by Israel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    When do we get to investigating election meddling by Israel?
    That’s an interesting question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    That’s an interesting question.
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    Didn’t think it was possible but Trump becoming even more unhinged on Twitter than ever before.
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    I said I would try to read this book and did try. I got through over half, enough to feel I'd heard all he had to say.

    He convinced me of part of his argument, that the FBI may have felt pressure to overlook some of Clinton's transgressions with regard to the email fiasco because she would likely become President. Even if nothing she did was criminal, there were clearly actions beneath the dignity of the office of Secretary of State. I hold Obama to blame as much as her. He and his advisors should never have allowed her so much freedom with her communications, including signing off on the home server idea. The "for convenience" excuse doesn't fly with me. Convenience should not be the main priority when it comes to official communications of State. Whoever signs their name of Sec of State communications should assume what they've written is going directly into the Library of Congress, except or course for the really sensitive stuff which should be kept off the main record. I think it's obvious what a mistake it is to blur the lines between official and personal communication, the way Trump has.

    The Russian hoax argument was less convincing to me, but I admit the impartiality of the FBI took a hit with allowing Hillary to skate, and at the very least the optics were horrible. The whole 2016 election is one giant cluster **** of screwups and the FBI is part of it whether they like it or not.

    The prose and organization of the book felt slung together, which it probably was. He admits that the material for the book mostly came from previous articles he'd written, a mistake imo. He also repeated himself too much and the tone at times got a little whiny.

    I still recommend the book for those interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post


    I said I would try to read this book and did try. I got through over half, enough to feel I'd heard all he had to say.

    He convinced me of part of his argument, that the FBI may have felt pressure to overlook some of Clinton's transgressions with regard to the email fiasco because she would likely become President. Even if nothing she did was criminal, there were clearly actions beneath the dignity of the office of Secretary of State. I hold Obama to blame as much as her. He and his advisors should never have allowed her so much freedom with her communications, including signing off on the home server idea. The "for convenience" excuse doesn't fly with me. Convenience should not be the main priority when it comes to official communications of State. Whoever signs their name of Sec of State communications should assume what they've written is going directly into the Library of Congress, except or course for the really sensitive stuff which should be kept off the main record. I think it's obvious what a mistake it is to blur the lines between official and personal communication, the way Trump has.

    The Russian hoax argument was less convincing to me, but I admit the impartiality of the FBI took a hit with allowing Hillary to skate, and at the very least the optics were horrible. The whole 2016 election is one giant cluster **** of screwups and the FBI is part of it whether they like it or not.

    The prose and organization of the book felt slung together, which it probably was. He admits that the material for the book mostly came from previous articles he'd written, a mistake imo. He also repeated himself too much and the tone at times got a little whiny.

    I still recommend the book for those interested.
    I could agree with most of this.

    What I wonder, whether it wasn't up to the FBI or not, was them picking a lesser of two evils scenario. They backed off Hillary because Intel was already revealed internally at the FBI that Trump and his family were getting intertwined too closely with Russians.
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