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    I’d have to say the Phillies and gNats are among the losers here as well. The Phillies did not address their pitching needs while the gNats picked up 3 very blah pieces for their pen....

    Both teams tied in the WC hunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
    I’d have to say the Phillies and gNats are among the losers here as well. The Phillies did not address their pitching needs while the gNats picked up 3 very blah pieces for their pen....

    Both teams tied in the WC hunt.
    uhhh the Phillies picked up THE jason vargas...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    uhhh the Phillies picked up THE jason vargas...
    you have to respect anyone getting outs with an 85 mph fastball
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    you have to respect anyone getting outs with an 85 mph fastball
    I wonder if AA was questioning himself.

    Like am I not seeing the same numbers of Vargas and other guys the Nats got that I don't know about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
    I’d have to say the Phillies and gNats are among the losers here as well. The Phillies did not address their pitching needs while the gNats picked up 3 very blah pieces for their pen....

    Both teams tied in the WC hunt.
    The Dickerson move was good, Hudson should help the Nats pen too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    uhhh the Phillies picked up THE jason vargas...
    He'll get their beat writers in line in a hurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Folks aren't taking into account the fact AA didn't address several of the glaring needs going into the deadline...

    No LHP

    No RHH OFer to platoon with Ender

    No SP to push Fried/Gausman to the BP

    I gave AA a C- in my breakdown post.
    Valid points, but we don't know what the price for such acquisitions were. I'm going to assume SP was incredibly expensive this deadline being that most of the best ones "available" didn't get traded.

    I'm sure Folty factored into this decision as well. He could easily be that pitcher that shifts Fried to the pen, which would also eliminate the need for a lefty reliever also. And it apears that Riley isn't going anywhere at this point, so hopefully vs LHP we'll see more of the lineup we saw they other night with Riley, Duvall, and Acuna as the starting OF. Camrago could/should factor into that rotation as well.

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    Without getting a SP we pretty much punted this season. We should win the division and we will have a punchers chance but we might as well consider the NLDS to be the world series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Valid points, but we don't know what the price for such acquisitions were. I'm going to assume SP was incredibly expensive this deadline being that most of the best ones "available" didn't get traded.

    I'm sure Folty factored into this decision as well. He could easily be that pitcher that shifts Fried to the pen, which would also eliminate the need for a lefty reliever also. And it apears that Riley isn't going anywhere at this point, so hopefully vs LHP we'll see more of the lineup we saw they other night with Riley, Duvall, and Acuna as the starting OF. Camrago could/should factor into that rotation as well.
    All valid points, and I’m sure my take is partly jaded by my elevated testosterone levels wanting to see a bit more improvement. Not alpha level testosterone, but probably level 2...elderly jackrabbit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Without getting a SP we pretty much punted this season. We should win the division and we will have a punchers chance but we might as well consider the NLDS to be the world series.
    “Punchers chance” is a pretty good description. Only the true super teams have a better chance than that, and folks need to be realistic about the type of team that can be sustained long term with a $120M payroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Without getting a SP we pretty much punted this season. We should win the division and we will have a punchers chance but we might as well consider the NLDS to be the world series.
    Going to be hard for anyone to beat Houston at this point.

    I will say, if Folty can get back on track, I like our chances. Our lineup stacks up well against anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Going to be hard for anyone to beat Houston at this point.

    I will say, if Folty can get back on track, I like our chances. Our lineup stacks up well against anyone.
    Right now we are all talking about the trades. But I think the most important developments of the past week are what we are seeing from Duvall and Inciarte.

    I think we have more than a sluggers chance.
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    If we get past the NLDS, I will consider that my world series victory. Anything else is just icing on cake.

    I just wanna remember the feeling of seeing us play in a Best of 7 playoff series again. Last time it happened I was 11 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Right now we are all talking about the trades. But I think the most important developments of the past week are what we are seeing from Duvall and Inciarte.

    I think we have more than a sluggers chance.
    If Duvall can bring decent power to the lineup and hit around .260 I consider that an upgrade... anything Ender brings to the plate is gravy (Bowman’s excited)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Going to be hard for anyone to beat Houston at this point.

    I will say, if Folty can get back on track, I like our chances. Our lineup stacks up well against anyone.
    On the plus side if we actually do make it to the world series I could go to a game.
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    I think after this trade deadline, we are pretty solid favorites to make it to the NLCS. If we can pull that off, we have a solid ~30% shot to knock off the Dodgers in 7 games. Given our budget, I think that is about as good as you could hope for from year to year. We also have a small chance that the wild card team can knock off the Dodgers in 5, which would greatly increase our odds of making the World Series.

    This doesn't feel like a World Series team, but all we need is a little bit of luck and we can get there for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    I think after this trade deadline, we are pretty solid favorites to make it to the NLCS. If we can pull that off, we have a solid ~30% shot to knock off the Dodgers in 7 games. Given our budget, I think that is about as good as you could hope for from year to year. We also have a small chance that the wild card team can knock off the Dodgers in 5, which would greatly increase our odds of making the World Series.

    This doesn't feel like a World Series team, but all we need is a little bit of luck and we can get there for sure.
    I see the probabilities as follows:

    70% to win division (per FG)
    60% to win division round playoff series if we make it
    40% to win NLCS if we make it
    40% to win WS if we make it

    Mind you this is extremely overly simplified but that puts you into that 6-10% likelihood range of winning a WS which is a fantastic situation to be in. (538 has us at 7%, FWIW)

    Anytime you are a clear favorite to win your division, then you need to put yourself in a position to win a World Series. If anything, I would have preferred if AA was more aggressive and added both a starting pitcher and an outfielder. There’s no guarantee this team will be in this same position next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    On the plus side if we actually do make it to the world series I could go to a game.
    Same. I was so hoping for a Rangers/Braves WS in or last run of good teams. I would of went to all of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Going to be hard for anyone to beat Houston at this point.

    I will say, if Folty can get back on track, I like our chances. Our lineup stacks up well against anyone.
    Meh. They are great and it's easy to predict an Astros/Dodgers WS. But that's the beauty (or curse) of the MLB playoffs. The Dodgers have been in this decade what the Braves were in the 90s and still haven't won a WS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
    If Duvall can bring decent power to the lineup and hit around .260 I consider that an upgrade... anything Ender brings to the plate is gravy (Bowman’s excited)
    Getting the ~2 WAR version of Duvall and the ~3 WAR version of Ender for the stretch run would be huge and better than any impact trade made yesterday minus Greinke. Now we just have to hope that Folty can somehow find his way.

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