Yup. Which means something like 6 years of almost total loss. It is the death penalty. Even if you don't churn out stars, those guys fill out the lower and upper minors. Braves are going to have to sign some bums to fill out the minors.
How has John Schuerholz not been implicated and fired yet? This case truly does go all the way to the top, and the Johns attempt to cover things up are what ultimately lead us to the death penalty. Hopefully liberty guts our team and sells the Braves. I can deal with 10 years of futility if it means a future of competent ownership.
The "Braves Way" is dead, Schuerholz is a fraud. Time to start a new and different dynasty.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Liberty is a faceless entity.
If you had done this to Jerry Jones or Arthur Blank, he'd have been embarrassed and livid.
Fines, expulsion from MLB, loss of signing ability etc... that is punishment for the brass (the ones responsible).
But the loss of the players that get paid twice is punishment for the fans.
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I’ll be pulling hard for Braulio Vazquez, Jean Carlos Encarnacion, and Jefrey Ramos to salvage the 2016 class. We may have gotten lucky with these guys and that could make the sting hurt a little less.
I think long term Severino and Yefri will be the ones we missed out on. I question Maitan and Abrahan long term. If you have conditioning problems as a teenager that usually does not get better with age.
We suddenly look very weak at middle infield throughout the minors. Vazquez and Cruz profile more at 2B with Cruz maybe even CF and no viable SS prospects. We better hope Albies and Swanson are here for the next 4 years while we restock. I expect AA to focus on upgrading that area.
The Braves would still have Maitan and his entire class if Coppy and friends hadn't unnecessarily thrown a million dollars at Toscano money laundering to sign one or two more prospects the singing season before. So dumb.
In retrospect all of this stuff seems like it should have been more obvious than it was. I guess it was pretty obvious to the rest of MLB and that's how they got caught. Seems like it was pretty brazen.
It would have been pretty apparent to the rest of baseball that Toscano wasn't a million dollar prospect. Strange you didn't hear that at the time.
Problematic. The Braves have also tended to draw heavily from Latin America in the middle infield so that is even more of a problem.
They have major league coverage for awhile under control, theoretically, but they probably have to start drafting heavily there pretty soon.
I don't feel sorry for Liberty. They haven't given two ****s about paying attention to the Braves, other than what the stock price looks like. Maybe if they had paid some attention, they would have realized the problems that were going on with the people they put in charge.
This for me is the ultimate culmination of numbness for me. The Braves Brass (not talking Liberty, talking McGuirk and JS) have shown a distance from the fanbase. Frank Wren was brought in to change the BRaves to a bit more of a contemporary system. There were bumps in the road that's for sure. Wren chased some good folks away but also attracted some good folks. But he was ultimately fired due to alleged in fighting with Schuerholz and ultimately trying to fire Fredi which is something every single Braves fan wanted. If what Jeff Wren said was true, and the front office wanted to retool after 2012. Then things are very different than the official record and coudl have been different.
I have largely been numb to the Braves stupidity as of late. I don't tend to get mad, or excited, because ultimately I know we're working our way towards becoming a joke franchise, it's not what I ever would have expected to happen again. But it is happening and it could be happening fast. Especially as the rest of baseball outgrows us. I can't imagine us ever competing for the east over a long term again if the Marlins get competent.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
But that's a whole year. This was a colossal ****up. This is millions of millions of los dollars. Both in real money but even more importantly in future value. If anyone we lose becomes an All-Star or god forbid an MVP, we are talking possibly over a hundred million in lost revenue and player value. How the guys at the very top aren't held accountable is insane to me. I'm not saying outright ban them from the organization because that's tactless, but maybe they become lifetime advisors or some **** like that.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg