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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I think touki needs to establish his fastball right now. Guys are not biting on his curve because he is not commanding the fastball. He has to show them that
    they may not be biting because he hasn't shown the ability to locate it. like i said earlier i feel they were sitting on his fastball in the 2nd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Gametrack called them splitters...wish I could see this.
    interesting, ok. he just K'd rojas on what looked like the same pitch. looked good, though.
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    That change looking legit this inning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    vs LHH
    93 FA, just outside
    83 CH?, just outside
    93 FA, way outside
    94 FA, outside

    vs LHH
    93 FA, outside corner
    75 CU, inside corner, belt high, fouled off
    76 CU, up and away, fouled off
    94 FA, up
    76 CU, away, blooped into LF

    vs RHH
    94 FA, outside corner, belt high, ripped into RCF gap

    vs LHH
    87 CH?, away, fouled off
    78 CU, middle/middle, taken (luckily)
    77 CU, middle/down, fouled off
    95 FA, up and away, fouled off
    77 CU, away, noncompetitive pitch
    88 CH?, away, fly out to short LF

    vs RHH
    76 CU, outside corner, middle, taken
    76 CU, inside corner, middle, taken
    78 CU, down, swing and miss, his first well placed CU

    vs LHH (pitcher)
    95 FA, up/away, fouled off
    76 CU, outside corner, middle
    78 CU, outside
    95 FA, way up, noncompetitive pitch
    77 CU, low outside corner, excellent pitch, Touki robbed on the call
    96 FA, down the pipe

    Touki seems to have little control of the CU, and arm side FA control seems to be iffy as well.

    The CH doesn't appear to be something he can use as a weapon yet.
    I think that's reading too much. Maybe that is him today in his first innings.

    The reports from the minor league scouts were that he was still dialing in the control and command but it was pretty dang good. Really good reports on the change up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    That change looking legit this inning.
    Except that last one.
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    I'm pretty sure they are splitters...they seem to have more downward break than a normal change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I think touki needs to establish his fastball right now. Guys are not biting on his curve because he is not commanding the fastball. He has to show them that
    I wouldn't look for anything but the fastball with that nasty CB. Show me you can throw three for a strike or I'm letting that thing go.

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    At Bat app says splitter. Whatever it is, he's getting a lot more whiffs on it this inning.

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    forget about Touki as a pitcher...its his hitting i want to see
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    At Bat app says splitter. Whatever it is, he's getting a lot more whiffs on it this inning.
    It is coming in as a mid 80s pitch. I think it is a change. However his grip was split. So maybe. I just didn’t see the vertical drop like a true splitter.
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    2nd time through the order

    vs LHH
    84 CH, middle/middle
    85 CH, outside corner, middle
    78 CU, down and in, 4th well located CU
    94 FA, up, noncompetitive pitch
    87 CH?, down and in, noncompetitive pitch
    86 CH, off the plate away, tapped back to mound

    vs RHH
    93 FA, up and in, pulled foul
    95 FA, middle/middle, fouled off
    78 CU, outside corner and up, fouled off
    87 CH, middle up, fouled off
    86 CH, middle/middle, swing and miss

    vs RHH (Realmuto)
    hit him with a CH/split

    vs LHH
    75 CU, outside corner, 5th good CU
    85 CH, outside
    94 FA, way in, noncompetitive pitch
    86 CH, down, swing and miss, excellent pitch
    86 CH, off the plate away, popped up

    Looks like the CH is actually a split

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    I think that's reading too much. Maybe that is him today in his first innings.

    The reports from the minor league scouts were that he was still dialing in the control and command but it was pretty dang good. Really good reports on the change up.
    He looks like a guy with typical command for a 22 year old.

    I have little doubt he can tighten it up. I think I would have him pick a single arm angle and stick to it though.

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    Looks like the split at least has some serious potential. As we all knew, he has legit stuff with command issues. Ceiling is still off the charts.

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    looked kind of lost at the plate...disappointing
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    Splitter or change it is an effective pitch.
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    does ozzie love ronald or the first pitch more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Splitter or change it is an effective pitch.
    indeed.
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    Ozzie’s homer yesterday was a blessing and a cruse. He might pop up the next ten abs
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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Looks like the split at least has some serious potential. As we all knew, he has legit stuff with command issues. Ceiling is still off the charts.
    "Off the charts" hyperbole aside, he looks to have a 55+ FA, 60+ CU, and a CH/FS that looks to flash at least 50.

    Pair that arsenal with 45 command and we are looking at a #3/#4 right now. Tweak that command up to 50 and it's a legit #3. If the command gets to 60 before the stuff starts declining he is a legit #2 with arguments about being an Ace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    does ozzie love ronald or the first pitch more?
    His walks in Friday were his first since July 2nd

    That's just not gonna work

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