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    Nasty CU to K Galloway

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    Great easy quick inning. He might give us 7 innings.
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    Gamecast has now claimed he has thrown four seamer, Cutter, Slider, Curve, Splitter, and now this inning some 94 mph Sinkers.

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    Muk OPS now at .901
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    "Off the charts" hyperbole aside, he looks to have a 55+ FA, 60+ CU, and a CH/FS that looks to flash at least 50.

    Pair that arsenal with 45 command and we are looking at a #3/#4 right now. Tweak that command up to 50 and it's a legit #3. If the command gets to 60 before the stuff starts declining he is a legit #2 with arguments about being an Ace.
    Yeah, the 'off the charts' was definitely hyperbole. But if you're just talking pure stuff on the fastball/curve/splitter (since the command grade is separate), that seems like those grades at least could be a bit low. The fastball could be a 60, the curve could be 65-70, the splitter could be a 55, and suddenly it's a totally different profile. The likelihood of all 3 of those grading out at those levels aren't high, but even a couple of them being a tick better than you list makes a huge difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Gamecast has now claimed he has thrown four seamer, Cutter, Slider, Curve, Splitter, and now this inning some 94 mph Sinkers.
    Don't have this open much so maybe this is normal?

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    Bad lineup aside, I have a lot more confidence watching Touki than I do Allard and to a lesser extent Fried.

    Just the eye taste but he does look good to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Yeah, the 'off the charts' was definitely hyperbole. But if you're just talking pure stuff on the fastball/curve/splitter (since the command grade is separate), that seems like those grades at least could be a bit low. The fastball could be a 60, the curve could be 65-70, the splitter could be a 55, and suddenly it's a totally different profile. The likelihood of all 3 of those grading out at those levels aren't high, but even a couple of them being a tick better than you list makes a huge difference.
    This is just my eye test based on watching video on my phone and the TV radar gun.

    Looking forward to seeing actual data.

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    80 grade bloop!!!

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    Some of his pitches might be getting mistaken. He is a 4-seamer/curve/changeup/cutter pitcher, I believe. First 3 I'm for sure on. Those 3 are all very good now, the cutter needs a bit more work.

    Has the raw stuff to succeed, just might still have some command issues.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Horrible ab from ender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    80 grade bloop!!!
    can't teach that

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    His walks in Friday were his first since July 2nd

    That's just not gonna work
    yikes. no it's not. that's unbelievable.
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    Touki has 30 grade facial hair

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    awful AB ...looks like he is a pitcher after all
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    I actually don't think the Swanson trade was all bad for Dave Stewart. I mean he might have been able to get more value out of those guys than he got, but a fourth OF, a #1 pick they had already soured on and a back end rotation prospect wasn't so much to give up for what they I guess thought was a #3 starter. They rightly thought they were pretty close to winning it.

    But trading Touki for cash and Phil Gosselin is an all time head scratcher for me. Glad Coppy was there to make both of those trades. No one else was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    80 grade bloop!!!
    At this point it almost looks like a skill to drop those little crappy bloops in for doubles lol

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    Interested to see how Touki's stuff holds up now that he's nearing 80 pitches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I actually don't think the Swanson trade was all bad for Dave Stewart. I mean he might have been able to get more value out of those guys than he got, but a fourth OF, a #1 pick they had already soured on and a back end rotation prospect wasn't so much to give up for what they I guess thought was a #3 starter. They rightly thought they were pretty close to winning it.

    But trading Touki for cash and Phil Gosselin is an all time head scratcher for me. Glad Coppy was there to make both of those trades. No one else was.
    The 2 part trade for Trevor Cahill that netted us AJ Minter was a good one as well.

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