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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Meta View Post
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    It really is a question of "How long do we wait?" with Heyward... The Braves felt they had seen (and heard) enough of Franceour thinking he wasn't going to be that player we all thought he was going to be... So far, they seem to be right

    Basically right now, with Heyward, we're kinda doing the same thing. We're wondering "is he just not going to be as good as we thought he was gonna be" or "Is he STILL just trying to find himself at the big leagues and he'll put it together"

    Some take longer than others... Bernie Williams always comes to mind for me. But I don't think we have till Heyward hits 28 years old.

    I'd say if he's still doing what he's doing now at mid-season next year, ya HAVE TO think about trades.... Because it will have been his 5th season. And for all the talent we know he has, he just might not be able to get it together for us in time. He may be nothing more than a .240 avg, 15 to 20 homer, 70 RBI guy who plays good defense for his career. Instead of the 5 tool player we all thought he'd have a great chance to turn out to be.

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    I just don't think it's anywhere near time to give up on a guy with the skills Heyward has. Not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tino25Dynasty View Post
    It really is a question of "How long do we wait?" with Heyward... The Braves felt they had seen (and heard) enough of Franceour thinking he wasn't going to be that player we all thought he was going to be... So far, they seem to be right

    Basically right now, with Heyward, we're kinda doing the same thing. We're wondering "is he just not going to be as good as we thought he was gonna be" or "Is he STILL just trying to find himself at the big leagues and he'll put it together"

    Some take longer than others... Bernie Williams always comes to mind for me. But I don't think we have till Heyward hits 28 years old.

    I'd say if he's still doing what he's doing now at mid-season next year, ya HAVE TO think about trades.... Because it will have been his 5th season. And for all the talent we know he has, he just might not be able to get it together for us in time. He may be nothing more than a .240 avg, 15 to 20 homer, 70 RBI guy who plays good defense for his career. Instead of the 5 tool player we all thought he'd have a great chance to turn out to be.
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    TRading heyward is a move for an idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect Cell View Post
    TRading heyward is a move for an idiot
    Depends on what player or players are coming back in the deal.

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    Unless its Giancarlo Stanton i dont really think theres a deal for Heyward you even consider

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    Right, the point is.. no one is going to give you what you want for him because he's struggled. When he's not struggling, he's worth the world but no one wants to trade him when he's raking. Hence why he won't get traded and we should give him a lot more time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect Cell View Post
    Unless its Giancarlo Stanton i dont really think theres a deal for Heyward you even consider
    Well Trout or maybe Harvey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Meta View Post
    Oh, he's a plumber!

    I'm ashamed that I know what this is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary82 View Post
    I'm ashamed that I know what this is.
    I know because of the AVGN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
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    Just saw this. Awesome. Shanks is a tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    Just saw this. Awesome. Shanks is a tool.
    Hey, when did you stumble in here?

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    Its like the whole gang is back together!
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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    Just saw this. Awesome. Shanks is a tool.
    I don't know that we settled on anything on Heyward, but most everybody can agree on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tino25Dynasty View Post
    It really is a question of "How long do we wait?" with Heyward... The Braves felt they had seen (and heard) enough of Franceour thinking he wasn't going to be that player we all thought he was going to be... So far, they seem to be right

    Basically right now, with Heyward, we're kinda doing the same thing. We're wondering "is he just not going to be as good as we thought he was gonna be" or "Is he STILL just trying to find himself at the big leagues and he'll put it together"

    Some take longer than others... Bernie Williams always comes to mind for me. But I don't think we have till Heyward hits 28 years old.

    I'd say if he's still doing what he's doing now at mid-season next year, ya HAVE TO think about trades.... Because it will have been his 5th season. And for all the talent we know he has, he just might not be able to get it together for us in time. He may be nothing more than a .240 avg, 15 to 20 homer, 70 RBI guy who plays good defense for his career. Instead of the 5 tool player we all thought he'd have a great chance to turn out to be.
    Uh, No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Hey, when did you stumble in here?
    Speaking of stumbling in here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temo View Post
    Speaking of stumbling in here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Its like the whole gang is back together!
    LOL... Yeppers, can tell. Got a couple beauties in here acting who thought I said we need to trade Heyward when I said IF he's still doing what he's done for the season at NEXT YEAR'S deadline (hitting .220 and what not being his 5th season in the bigs) then I say you may want to consider it. Some may disagree. Some may want to give him till he's 30 years old. But some are gonna have to face that he may or may not become the player we know he can be. Francouer is the best example of that. He came out, was gonna be our next "Chipper Jones". I can remember Skip Carey in a telecast saying "next time you probly won't see Francouer in a Braves uniform might be 2020. He didn't even last to 2010. Some guys come out not hightly touted like Martin Prado and become great (I say he's been better and more consistent than Francouer has) and some bust like Jeff.

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