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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    I think we all try and forget about that series
    I try to forget the wild card game more.than 2003. Chipper went beast mode in game 4. Also Maddux last start in G3 for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    I try to forget the wild card game more.than 2003. Chipper went beast mode in game 4. Also Maddux last start in G3 for us.
    Maddux started G4, the same game chipper went beast mode with his 2 homers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prikichi View Post
    Maddux started G4, the same game chipper went beast mode with his 2 homers
    That was Russ Ortiz on 3 days. Maddux was G3 vs prior also the Robert Fick game.

    Ortiz
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    That was Russ Ortiz on 3 days. Maddux was G3 vs prior also the Robert Fick game.

    Ortiz
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    Yeah I remember the Maddux and Prior game. Was being billed as the new cubs phenom against the ex cubs phenom.

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    Wow. Daniel Murphy
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonCowboy View Post
    Wow. Daniel Murphy
    He's about to get paid

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    Daniel Murphy has now homered off Arietta, Greinke, and Kershaw this postseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JusticeForAll23 View Post
    Daniel Murphy has now homered off Arietta, Greinke, and Kershaw this postseason.
    Where is this even coming from? Meanwhile the Mets young pitchers have all pretty much dominated this post season while most other NL "aces" have flopped

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    Where is this even coming from? Meanwhile the Mets young pitchers have all pretty much dominated this post season while most other NL "aces" have flopped
    Pixie dust plays a bigger role in the post-season. Someday it will land on the Braves and we will all be stunned.

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    Safe to say, the Cubs are in serious trouble.
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    What I hope the Braves build is a pitching staff similar to the Mets with a line up similar to the Royals.

    This is why I would still focus on pitching for at least another year in the draft.

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    The Mets beat the Cubs in the first two games with Lester and Arrieta pitching and deGrom still to come for New York. I'm not quite saying the series is over, but the Cubs are on the brink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Years in the Wilderness (ie seasons without a post-season appearance) is an interesting benchmark to keep in mind when assessing our own rebuild:

    Pirates (21, 1992-2013)
    Cubs (17, 1998-2015)
    Royals ((29, 1985-2014)
    Blue Jays (22, 1993-2015)
    Mets (9, 2006-2015)

    Each situation is a little different. It should be easier to get back in the playoffs for the big payroll teams, who have the option of adding guys like Lester to supplement their young core. It should be easier for teams who keep a foundational player like David Wright during their rebuilding period.

    The Braves are a bit different for having a more extensive core (Freeman, Simmons, Teheran, Miller) at the major league level. I would say our period in the wilderness should be shorter than the above. But I wouldn't be surprised if it were 4 or 5 years.
    My basic feeling as well. Pirates and Royals both got in a rough mid-market cycle where they had to unload guys they were building around because they got too expensive (or the risk of arbitration loomed) which sent them back to square two a couple of times. Pirates, Cubs, and Royals have all drafted very well for the past decade or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    My basic feeling as well. Pirates and Royals both got in a rough mid-market cycle where they had to unload guys they were building around because they got too expensive (or the risk of arbitration loomed) which sent them back to square two a couple of times. Pirates, Cubs, and Royals have all drafted very well for the past decade or so.
    It also helped that they had really good draft slots.

    The last time the Braves had a Top 10 pick was Minor. And before that was almost 20 years before that.
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    It's a hackneyed saying, but it still boils down to pitching; first to get into the playoffs and then once you're in them. Don't get me wrong, you've still got to hit, but it starts with pitching.

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    Did the Royals draft so well? Here are the picks they made with top 10 picks.

    1997 Dan Reichart (#7)
    1998 Jeff Austin (#4)
    1999 Kyle Snyder (#7)
    2000 Kyle Skodolka (#4)
    2001 Colt Griffin (#9)
    2002 Zach Greinke (#6)
    2003 Chris Lubanski (#3)
    2005 Alex Gordon (#2)
    2006 Luke Hochevaar (#1)
    2007 Mike Moustakas (#2)
    2008 Eric Hosmer (#3)
    2010 Christian Colon (#4)
    2011 Bubba Starling (#5)
    2012 Kyle Zimmer (#5)
    2013 Hunter Dozier (#8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Did the Royals draft so well? Here are the picks they made with top 10 picks.

    1997 Dan Reichart (#7)
    1998 Jeff Austin (#4)
    1999 Kyle Snyder (#7)
    2000 Kyle Skodolka (#4)
    2001 Colt Griffin (#9)
    2002 Zach Greinke (#6)
    2003 Chris Lubanski (#3)
    2005 Alex Gordon (#2)
    2006 Luke Hochevaar (#1)
    2007 Mike Moustakas (#2)
    2008 Eric Hosmer (#3)
    2010 Christian Colon (#4)
    2011 Bubba Starling (#5)
    2012 Kyle Zimmer (#5)
    2013 Hunter Dozier (#8)

    15 top ten picks over 17 year period.. good grief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Did the Royals draft so well? Here are the picks they made with top 10 picks.

    1997 Dan Reichart (#7)
    1998 Jeff Austin (#4)
    1999 Kyle Snyder (#7)
    2000 Kyle Skodolka (#4)
    2001 Colt Griffin (#9)
    2002 Zach Greinke (#6)
    2003 Chris Lubanski (#3)
    2005 Alex Gordon (#2)
    2006 Luke Hochevaar (#1)
    2007 Mike Moustakas (#2)
    2008 Eric Hosmer (#3)
    2010 Christian Colon (#4)
    2011 Bubba Starling (#5)
    2012 Kyle Zimmer (#5)
    2013 Hunter Dozier (#8)
    Gordon, Moustakas, and Hosmer are all really solid baseball players. I wouldn't be surprised to see Colon develop into an above-average 2B at some point (but admittedly he has a lower ceiling). Hochevar has been hurt. They turned Greinke into Cain, Escobar, Odrizzi, and Jeffress. Odrizzi (along with their third round pick from 2009 in Myers) was part of the deal that brought them Shields and Davis. That would put 63% of their current starting line-up, a key starting pitcher in last year's run and a solid bullpen guy somewhat tied to their drafting. I would say that's pretty decent.
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    This is the Cueto I expected last time.

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    Cueto is not sharp, to say the least.
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