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    McGuirk Says Braves 'All In' On Youth Movement

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    From the article you can see the Braves kind of had the feelings that [MENTION=54]50PoundHead[/MENTION] has mentioned numerous times. The rebuild was overdue but the patches kept on being place and the Braves kept on winning. Now the rebuild is in full effect and when the team comes out from the other side of the next two years of losing its going to be a good time for Brave fans again.
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    So we go and get older and it's a "Youth Movement"? :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    So we go and get older and it's a "Youth Movement"? :)
    Seems that way. I don't think we will be challenging for youngest teams in baseball like we were the last few years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    So we go and get older and it's a "Youth Movement"? :)
    Hah, well done.
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    As long as the Youth Movement isn't the baseball equivalent of a Bowel Movement, I'm good.

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    “We’re not going to have many people that don’t pull the oars all in the same direction, and hustle and play the game right. … You know, the correlation between payroll and winning decreases every year, and you’ve seen it for a lot of different reasons. The salaries are getting somewhat out of hand. The correlation between a strong minor league system and winning increases ever year. And plainly, we’re going with the trend, and we’re going all in with that trend.


    kinda sounds like we are going to be cheapskates now. More than anything.

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    So far as I can tell, here's the big news from the piece, even if it's technically DOB and not McGuirk saying it:

    What the Braves Way does not include is a boost in payroll and filling a lot of gaps with free-agent signings. The Braves are currently just below $100 million in payroll for 2015, which should rank just below the middle among 30 teams. The figure is just about where they were last year before Wren was given permission during spring training to sign Ervin Santana to a $14.1 million contract after pitchers Kris Medlen and Brandon Beachy had season-ending elbow injuries.

    The Braves say their payroll will rise in future years, particularly after the move to the new ballpark. But don’t expect it to jump sharply and put the Braves back in the top five among major league spenders, where they were in the 1990s thanks to their sugar-daddy owner at the time, billionaire Ted Turner.
    1. A sub-$100 million payroll, which puts us below the league average, seems to be our natural level right now- last year's payroll was a Santana-related fluke. The idea that we have plenty of room to spend seems wrong-headed after this interview.
    2. Certainly doesn't seem like we're being primed to expect a dramatic payroll increase when we move to the new park. Quite the opposite, in fact. Perhaps enough to accommodate built-in raises for our existing players and not much more?

    Not encouraging comments, albeit ones that synch up with the organization's actual moves this winter.

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    If the Braves decide to spend less on the major league team and more on the minor leagues I could go for that.
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    Yep. God i wish we had better owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect Cell View Post
    Yep. God i wish we had better owners.
    I'm still hopeful for when the team moves to the new stadium. There really isn't a point to spending money next year or even in 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadduxFanII View Post
    So far as I can tell, here's the big news from the piece, even if it's technically DOB and not McGuirk saying it:



    1. A sub-$100 million payroll, which puts us below the league average, seems to be our natural level right now- last year's payroll was a Santana-related fluke. The idea that we have plenty of room to spend seems wrong-headed after this interview.
    2. Certainly doesn't seem like we're being primed to expect a dramatic payroll increase when we move to the new park. Quite the opposite, in fact. Perhaps enough to accommodate built-in raises for our existing players and not much more?

    Not encouraging comments, albeit ones that synch up with the organization's actual moves this winter.
    Is it just me, or does everyone forget that we had one of the higher payrolls in baseball in the 1990s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Is it just me, or does everyone forget that we had one of the higher payrolls in baseball in the 1990s?
    Those were fun days. And the music was so bad-ass.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MadduxFanII View Post
    Those were fun days. And the music was so bad-ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    If the Braves decide to spend less on the major league team and more on the minor leagues I could go for that.

    I would take it a step further and say that we shouldn't promote guys to the majors if it means weakening the minor league depth that Hart has worked so hard to build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I'm still hopeful for when the team moves to the new stadium. There really isn't a point to spending money next year or even in 2016.
    Or promoting promising prospects.

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    “I remember years ago when we made the shift, in turning to youth and enthusiasm,” McGuirk said. “And it only took about 15 minutes for the fan base to get with it – they totally embraced it. But it was hard to make that (full) transition, because we still had a lot of veterans from the winning years. And now, we’re in a position where we can be all-in on youth and enthusiasm. And I think you’ll see that from here on out, starting with all the John Hart moves.

    When is he talking about, exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    “I remember years ago when we made the shift, in turning to youth and enthusiasm,” McGuirk said. “And it only took about 15 minutes for the fan base to get with it – they totally embraced it. But it was hard to make that (full) transition, because we still had a lot of veterans from the winning years. And now, we’re in a position where we can be all-in on youth and enthusiasm. And I think you’ll see that from here on out, starting with all the John Hart moves.

    When is he talking about, exactly?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect Cell View Post
    kinda sounds like we are going to be cheapskates now. More than anything.
    I'm still trying to figure out how a team in the 9th largest market in the United States is considered mid market.

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