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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    Argument is done. Sorry.

    He did not hit 108 and not regularly 100 or he would have more wins.

    I have nothing else to say.
    So we are ignoring science now. Did you even click on the link? I'm guessing not.

    It is a scientific and mathematical fact that Ryan hit 100 MPH regularly. The link I posted is referencing a documentary about the fastest pitchers ever. From the documentary:

    The measuring methods were different in 1974. The 83mph fastball was measured about 7ft behind the plate. The 98.6mph fastball was measured on the plate. The 100.8mph fastball from Nolan was measured 10ft in front of home plate

    Why does this matter? As the physicists explains, due to drag and other factors a ball slows down quite a bit from the point it is thrown to when it reaches the plate. The Chapman fastball uses today's method of measuring which measures just 20ft in front of the mound, basically a few feet in front of where the ball leaves the hand of the pitcher which is at its fastest point in flight.

    Using calculations they began to figure out how fast the other fastballs would be if measured in todays method.

    The result? Nolan Ryans 100.8 fastball would have been rung up as 108mph in todays game.



    There you go. Science. Math. Physics. You cannot change these facts because "he didn't win a lot of games."
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Best case Mets take two of three and we keep winning.

    Met won’t keep this up with their schedule coming up.
    They sweep, Braves win next 2, and lead is at 8/8.5 games.

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    385 for Ronnie?

    Weak, but I take it from him?

    Chipper lite?

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    Snit says Melancon is our new closer. Fully endorse that decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    So we are ignoring science now. Did you even click on the link? I'm guessing not.

    It is a scientific and mathematical fact that Ryan hit 100 MPH regularly. The link I posted is referencing a documentary about the fastest pitchers ever. From the documentary:

    The measuring methods were different in 1974. The 83mph fastball was measured about 7ft behind the plate. The 98.6mph fastball was measured on the plate. The 100.8mph fastball from Nolan was measured 10ft in front of home plate

    Why does this matter? As the physicists explains, due to drag and other factors a ball slows down quite a bit from the point it is thrown to when it reaches the plate. The Chapman fastball uses today's method of measuring which measures just 20ft in front of the mound, basically a few feet in front of where the ball leaves the hand of the pitcher which is at its fastest point in flight.

    Using calculations they began to figure out how fast the other fastballs would be if measured in todays method.

    The result? Nolan Ryans 100.8 fastball would have been rung up as 108mph in todays game.



    There you go. Science. Math. Physics. You cannot change these facts because "he didn't win a lot of games."
    I am sorry, did I not say, I am tired of this stupid argument? Get a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    They sweep, Braves win next 2, and lead is at 8/8.5 games.
    I'd love to see that and take my chances with that lead.

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    Snit just said Melancon is the primary closer for now. Per Gabe.

    Cant even disagree with this, he's been by far the best pitcher they've acquired, i still dont like his contract for next year, but thats another discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Snit says Melancon is our new closer. Fully endorse that decision.
    Lmao. Greene demoted in less than a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    I am sorry, did I not say, I am tired of this stupid argument? Get a clue.
    So you didn't read the link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    Lmao. Greene demoted in less than a week.
    probably because he hasn't seen a clean inning without runs yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    probably because he hasn't seen a clean inning without runs yet.
    I just find it hilarious because when Greene came here, the first thing Snitker told him was "you know you'll be pitching the 9th innings here right?"

    Some of us felt Martin should be closer but Snit not surprisingly went with Greene because of save numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    I just find it hilarious because when Greene came here, the first thing Snitker told him was "you know you'll be pitching the 9th innings here right?"

    Some of us felt Martin should be closer but Snit not surprisingly went with Greene because of save numbers.
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    Mets came back and walked off the Nats. That's yuge. Lead back up to 6.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So John Hart was NOT right about Albies.
    Haha I love this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So John Hart was NOT right about Albies.
    I told you so. I don't care who doesn't like it.ha. He's so good right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    #TVgun

    As always, we should wait for the Statcast data. I still remember a start against Philly two years ago where Julio was sitting 95 on the TV gun.
    The data you get from mlb gameday is statcast data. One of his pitches registered at 94.6 so it's real.

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    And ryan was a freak who played on a lot of ****ty teams. Either way he has over 100 career WAR. He's not the best but I would say the most dominating. He has the record for mist no hitters, 1 hitters, 2 hitters, and 3 hitters in mlb history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    And ryan was a freak who played on a lot of ****ty teams. Either way he has over 100 career WAR. He's not the best but I would say the most dominating. He has the record for mist no hitters, 1 hitters, 2 hitters, and 3 hitters in mlb history.
    Ryan is an interesting case. Yes, a hall of famer. When he was on he was almost literally unhittable.

    But he does have 292 losses a winning percentage only slightly over . 500. I agree that win percentage is not an end-all stat. BUT it becomes more relevant the larger the sample size. Bill James wrote about Ryan and dispelled the impression that he just played on crappy teams. In fact his winning % was just slightly better than his teams % for his career.

    BBRef has his WAR at 81.2 which is 60th of all time. Why isn’t he higher up the WAR list despite pitching in 27 seasons? Simple, walks, and a LOT of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Best switch-hitter in Braves history.

    Can’t even think of a close second.
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