thethe has to be the most paranoid person in the world not named alex jones
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
jpx7 (10-19-2017)
Trump finally tweeted about it!
Good thing he's been in office for almost 10 months already! One day people will see past his diversion and smokescreen tactics.
Forever Fredi
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
jpx7 (10-19-2017)
There is no evidence Clinton herself got involved in the deal personally, and it is highly questionable that this deal even rose to the level of the secretary of state. Theoretically, as Schweizer says, Clinton could have intervened. But even then, it ultimately would have been Obama’s decision whether to suspend or block the deal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6b32c9d570a9
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
So is the Mercer family the "actual left's" version of George Soros? I thought that role was reserved for the Koch bros.
I get lost in mega-wealthy boogeyman angle game.
I dunno. You tell me. They invested $10M in Breitbart, $5M in Cambridge Analytica, and gave at least $2M to Citizens United. Bannon and David Bossie from CU ended up running Trump's campaign and CA did their data work. They've backed Bannon in lots of his other ventures. They bankrolled the Clinton Cash book and documentary (c.f. the recent piece that had Bannon and Yiannopolous celebrating its publication aboard Robert Mercer's yacht).
That seems a whole lot more specific and substantial than the vague Soros bogeyman stories about BLM and "paid protesters."
But, yeah, the mega-rich bankroll our political infrastructure, in a particularly un-transparent way. This is the post-Citizens United vs. Clinton world we live in. The Kochs, the Mercers, Sheldon Adelson, George Soros, Tom Steyer... but I'm making a specific allegation about where the money for a specific project came from. Are you disputing it?
Are you disputing that the Mercers bankrolled the Clinton Cash book, or that they're the money behind Breitbart and various other Bannon ventures?
jpx7 (10-20-2017)
More to the point, do you think that the story at issue is on the level? Do you think that its genesis makes it a teensy bit suspect?
No, I'm not disputing it. And I'm not surprised that they are a part of the money (although I do think it's important to distinguish that they are not all of the money) behind these various ventures/causes. That's what these individuals do - they donate to things that advance their politi-ideological interests. Politics is doused in shady money and I don't think where it comes from is necessarily revelatory at all.
That a conservative would help fund a project that assails liberal ideologues/causes is not shocking. Do you think a liberal would make that investment?
For what it's worth, I'm all about extracting excessive/illegal/corporate/mega donations it from the political sphere by whatever means necessary.
Last edited by Hawk; 10-19-2017 at 03:56 PM.
I think that every dime that is donated to the advancement of any political cause should be 100% transparent. No dark money, no Super-PACs, no ambiguity. That seems like a reasonable position.
jpx7 (10-20-2017)