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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    i still can't believe that result happened

    it sucks being an Atlanta fan
    It does suck being an Atlanta fan but I can absolutely believe the result. It really was never going to turn out any other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Oh I don't?

    Running forward and leaping in an obvious attempt to block a field goal or Try Kick and landing on players, unless the leaping player was originally lined up on the line of scrimmage when the ball was snapped.

    Let's check

    Ran forward - Check
    Leaping in an obvious attempt to block a kick - Check
    Landing on a player - Check. Notice is right leg landing on the guard's right shoulder
    Gilesfan is an annoying twat who pretends to know so much about football but really doesn't - check.
    You realize the Patriots were called for illegal formation, right? They ruled that the rusher was lined up over the long snapper; which he wasn't, he was lined up in the gap between the two players.

    Everything I've read said it was not leaping. I don't think they consider him "landing" on the player. You certainly have to be within a yard of the LOS (which he was).

    It's just comical. Some Falcons fans took it like good sports.......other just whine about stupid nonsense. "My team lost; REFS FAULT!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    You realize the Patriots were called for illegal formation, right? They ruled that the rusher was lined up over the long snapper; which he wasn't, he was lined up in the gap between the two players.

    Everything I've read said it was not leaping. I don't think they consider him "landing" on the player. You certainly have to be within a yard of the LOS (which he was).

    It's just comical. Some Falcons fans took it like good sports.......other just whine about stupid nonsense. "My team lost; REFS FAULT!"
    Most places are too busy fanboying over Tom Brady to pay attention to that play. I've only seen the one article about it and that guy just has a throw away line about him not landing on anyone.

    Even if the call wasn't made it doesn't affect the game. I think it's 99.9% that the Pats kick an extra point after one of their TD's instead of going for 2 and risking losing.

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    Sarkisian to ATL as OC
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    That... loss... my goodness... It hurts. Makes you really question whether following sports is worth it.

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    The god's honest truth is there's holding on pretty much every play in the secondary and in the trenches. Some of it blatant and never called, some of it barely and it called.

    The issue I had was the Falcons were blowing out the Pats and suddenly these holding calls start appearing on 3rd and long for the Pats. The fact it happened 3 times in a row was really bizarre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    You realize the Patriots were called for illegal formation, right? They ruled that the rusher was lined up over the long snapper; which he wasn't, he was lined up in the gap between the two players.

    Everything I've read said it was not leaping. I don't think they consider him "landing" on the player. You certainly have to be within a yard of the LOS (which he was).
    They were called for illegal formation, which I don't really consider right, but I can understand why it was called. foul should have been for leaping, maybe that's what they meant and they were idiots and called it the wrong thing, who knows.

    And you cannoy read it's not being within a yard it's lined up within a yard. Lined up and being within are not the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    They were called for illegal formation, which I don't really consider right, but I can understand why it was called. foul should have been for leaping, maybe that's what they meant and they were idiots and called it the wrong thing, who knows.

    And you cannoy read it's not being within a yard it's lined up within a yard. Lined up and being within are not the same thing.

    LOL, you are wrong. You can start from anywhere as long as you are within a yard when the ball is snapped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    I think I'm about the only one on the planet who said the Patriots were still going to win after going down 28-3. Even made a friendly wager with a dude at my party.
    I thought the Patriots were going to come back after being down 28-3 myself. I saw them come back from a 24-0 deficit against my team(Broncos) 3 years ago. Falcons choked like I thought they would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    LOL, you are wrong. You can start from anywhere as long as you are within a yard when the ball is snapped.
    Nope. Learn to read.

    "Running forward and leaping in an obvious attempt to block a field goal or Try Kick and landing on players, unless the leaping player was originally lined up on the line of scrimmage when the ball was snapped"

    Would a receiver in motion be lined up on the line of scrimmage if he runs to the line before the snap? Nope, because that's an illegal motion.
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    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ock+field+goal

    http://www.sbnation.com/2016/10/23/1...l-bobby-wagner

    There are at least two refs that have said it should not have been a penalty on the Pats.

    BUT ZITO KNOWS!
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    Is there any way to tell which official makes which call? Just curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ock+field+goal

    http://www.sbnation.com/2016/10/23/1...l-bobby-wagner

    There are at least two refs that have said it should not have been a penalty on the Pats.

    BUT ZITO KNOWS!
    So what you're saying is you have no real evidence. So you're so on it.
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    Personally, I think they should take the landing on a player part out of the rule all together. Once you're in the air you don't have a lot of control over where you land. It's pretty much a craps shoot as to whether you land on someone or not. The thing that's dangerous is having guys flying in from the second level and jumping forward at the line. I don't like incentivizing guys to try it by giving them a way out. Just make that whole thing illegal.

    And the focus is on the penalty that was called on the Pats. The question of whether or not it was leaping has gotten less attention. According to the rule book, that was leaping. He came from the second level, jumped forward into the line, and made contact with a player on his way down (landed on a player). You can argue the contact wasn't sufficient to draw a call but the Refs would have been justified calling that leaping.

    Again though, this is a stupid thing to argue over. It's highly unlikely it would have resulted in the Pats winning in regulation. With how gassed the Falcons defense was, I don't see the Pats going for two both times if they didn't have to. They'd have gone for the point after at least once.

    Finally, the calls that are made are only a part of the story. It's the calls that aren't made that are the real story. You can call a game one sided and every flag you throw be justified. But if you're ignoring the penalties of one team and calling everything the other team does, you're still influencing the game. There's a reason it's a joke around the league about how the Pats O-line is never called for holding.

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    I don't even mind if they weren't calling offensive holding on the Pats or Falcons. Whatever, doesn't matter. What bothered me were the 2 times the Pats clipped a Falcon and it wasn't called and calling holding on the play that pushed Atlanta out of field goal range and virtually sealing the win. The clipping bothers me because it's incredibly dangerous. It's not poor sportsmanship like holding where you're doing something to gain an advantage. You're making an illegal block with a pretty high probability of injuring someone. The issue with the holding against the Falcons was the timing. It took what looked like a highly probable field goal try and pushed it back. You can argue against the play calling, that's fine but there would have been chances to call holds on those plays too. Meanwhile Pats linemen have been tackling guys all day. DOn't get me wrong, the Falcons were holding too, they were just less egregious about it.
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    gotta get me one of those "fire Goodell" hats from the Patriots parade.
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    Can I make a suggestion for an overtime switch?

    - Each team gets same number of possession until one has more points

    - You cannot kick field goals

    - You cannot kick extra points

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Can I make a suggestion for an overtime switch?

    - Each team gets same number of possession until one has more points

    - You cannot kick field goals

    - You cannot kick extra points
    The OT rule has got to be changed, at least for the SB. Not even getting the ball? Basically a coin flip? Not ok for the SB really
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    Yeah I don't think it would have mattered either way but I've long been an opponent of the sudden death. Even if the old sudden death format got us to our first Super Bowl. Both teams should get a crack at it at the very least.

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