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    Folty

    Finished 9th in the NL in WAR and 8th in FIP.
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Where did Newcomb finish, just of old times’ sake.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Where did Newcomb finish, just of old times’ sake.
    thethe is looking up the answer...he will let us know when he comes back
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Where did Newcomb finish, just of old times’ sake.
    To be fair, this was newcomb's 2nd year.

    Newcomb year 2 = 1.9 fWAR, 4.14 FIP
    Folty year 2 = 1.3 fWAR, 4.24 FIP

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    Dude was nails this year. He had a rough July, though a little bad luck was sprinkled in; but aside from he, he was incredible. The Folty trade and Dansby/Ender trade was one of the best in recent memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Dude was nails this year. He had a rough July, though a little bad luck was sprinkled in; but aside from he, he was incredible. The Folty trade and Dansby/Ender trade was one of the best in recent memory.
    Yes but Wren personally signed Acuna and Albies mumble mumble

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Yes but Wren personally signed Acuna and Albies mumble mumble
    don't forget Camargo and Sobotka
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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Yes but Wren personally signed Acuna and Albies mumble mumble
    We can thank Wren for drafting Gattis that is for sure

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    I feel good about Folty as a game 1 starter and I was ready to give up on him in the past. Thanks El Oso Blanco.
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    It’s over."


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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    We can thank Wren for drafting Gattis that is for sure
    Yes. We definitely owe him for that. I’m sure his influence in that decision was essential to the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Yes. We definitely owe him for that. I’m sure his influence in that decision was essential to the process.
    Wrens influence is all over the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    To be fair, this was newcomb's 2nd year.

    Newcomb year 2 = 1.9 fWAR, 4.14 FIP
    Folty year 2 = 1.3 fWAR, 4.24 FIP
    To be fair, the substance of the argument was never that Newcomb could one day be as good as Foltynewicz.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    I'd extend him but we do have him under team control for another 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    To be fair, the substance of the argument was never that Newcomb could one day be as good as Foltynewicz.
    The argument this year was that Newk was better than Folty now because he "threw better strikes in the zone".

    Newk will likely start 2019 in the rotation, and be at risk of losing his spot to younger/better guys like Wright, Touki, Soroka and maybe Gohara if he ever gets his act together.

    Kinda like what happened to Oliver Perez...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The argument this year was that Newk was better than Folty now because he "threw better strikes in the zone".

    Newk will likely start 2019 in the rotation, and be at risk of losing his spot to younger/better guys like Wright, Touki, Soroka and maybe Gohara if he ever gets his act together.

    Kinda like what happened to Oliver Perez...
    What does TrackMan say about Wright? I am just thoroughly unimpressed with his stuff and feel like his release is very easy for hitters' to pick up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    To be fair, the substance of the argument was never that Newcomb could one day be as good as Foltynewicz.
    I'll stay out of it now.
    Last edited by msstate7; 10-01-2018 at 03:38 PM.

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    Wright should McCullers it. I'm unsure the Braves let him.

    But what Kiley said was the trackman stuff said if he went to a sinker as his fastball, he's a MOR with a 7-8 K/9.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    I'm putting Newcomb in my trade package this offseason for something good. The Braves have 3 starters that can do the Oliver Perez or Andrew Miller if pushed out so he's redundant. Trade him, open 2019 with Folty/Gausman/Teheran/Touki/Fried and possibly end with both Soroka and Wright in the rotation, usurping Teheran and Fried, unless Fried is just absolutely runaway good.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Was Faulty’s home run rate down as well? Amazing what happens when a prospect learns to pitch instead of just throwing. They become more than a prospect at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I'll stay out of it now.
    Wasn’t trying to shoot you, specifically, down—and I don’t disagree that Newcomb warrants patience, as well. I was just merely pointing out that your thoughtful comparison of indices was not where that early-season argument went. Instead it went: “Damn the indicators, Folty is just lucky-wild and Newcomb KnowsHowToPitch.”
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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