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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    That's just crazy. It's a tax on Americans.

    Not to mention, companies who moved their supply chain from China to Mexico in response to the China tariffs have got to be fed up.

    I'm against all the tariffs, but at least with China there's some IP mission behind it... this is just stupid from a President who clearly doesn't understand how tariffs work
    Its a consumption tax which is slightly different.

    You understand the China tariffs because the chinese government is doing things to hurt american businesses but dony understand mexican tariffs because their actions are hurting american citizens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Its a consumption tax which is slightly different.

    You understand the China tariffs because the chinese government is doing things to hurt american businesses but dony understand mexican tariffs because their actions are hurting american citizens?
    It's a consumption tax... so the Corona beer I'm drinking wont cost me more?

    My mom buying a new car wont hurt her?

    I dont agree with any of the tariffs. I think they are stupid and extremely counter productive and have clearly not worked to date.

    But I at least understand the logic behind the Chinese ones. The Mexican ones make no sense and will make any trade deal harder bc nobody can trust the stability of Trumps impulses.

    Why not raise tariffs on every country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    It's a consumption tax... so the Corona beer I'm drinking wont cost me more?

    My mom buying a new car wont hurt her?

    I dont agree with any of the tariffs. I think they are stupid and extremely counter productive and have clearly not worked to date.

    But I at least understand the logic behind the Chinese ones. The Mexican ones make no sense and will make any trade deal harder bc nobody can trust the stability of Trumps impulses.

    Why not raise tariffs on every country?
    Tariffs should be imposed to change behavior of nations that are negatively impacting Americans.

    Its clear thats whats happening. You dont agree with the reasons and thats fine. But that is the reason and there is a clear strategy at play here.

    Trumps #1 campaign promise was to portect the border. All he is doing is fufilling promises made to voters. There will be many who dont agree with his administration.

    A consumption tax is different because the consumer is making a discretionary decision to pay it.

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    Trump also promised to balance the budget and pay down debt.

    I'd like for.him to focus on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Trump also promised to balance the budget and pay down debt.

    I'd like for.him to focus on that

    As would I. How do you propose he cut spending when Congress doesn't want to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    As would I. How do you propose he cut spending when Congress doesn't want to?
    Ummmmmmmmm

    Should we tell him guys about this power the president has?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    As would I. How do you propose he cut spending when Congress doesn't want to?
    He could, uh, not sign the spending bills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    He could, uh, not sign the spending bills?
    Bring the government to.a shutdown in perpetutity then?

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    https://humanevents.com/2019/05/31/a...Q8Hr%3Famp%3D1

    Some awesome stuff. Some crazy stuff but we are in crazy times.

    The left is playing to win and we need to also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    https://humanevents.com/2019/05/31/a...Q8Hr%3Famp%3D1

    Some awesome stuff. Some crazy stuff but we are in crazy times.

    The left is playing to win and we need to also.

    The peacetime approach, embodied here by Shapiro and Lowry, is to assume that your opponents, like you, are just seeking out the good; and that you can collaborate with your opponents in a Hegelian dialectic to reach a policy synthesis that will benefit everyone.
    I’m dying right now.

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    "For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman

    "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"

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    Lol nobody denied a request was made.

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    A fETuS iS a HuMaN

    "For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman

    "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"

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    What a faulty logical argument.

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    Garsh... I wonder why conservative states are fighting back


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    We need wartime conservatives.

    Progressives have broken all norms in their quest for power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    We need wartime conservatives.

    Progressives have broken all norms in their quest for power.
    "For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman

    "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"

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    "For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman

    "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Who cares? Why are you so worried about what Europe thinks?

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    Lol...sky news really speaks for the people.

    Im sure most that identify as the brexit party love trump. You know, the party that will soon hold a majority in Britain?

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