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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    Seth Beer freshman year: .369 avg, .352 BABIP, 18 HR, 21.8% BB%, 9.5% K%.

    Seth Beer sophomore year: .298 avg, .288 BABIP, 16 HR, 21.4% BB%, 11.7% K%.

    He's not going to go 1-1, especially with a guy like Turang on the board, because he's strictly a corner guy.
    There are serious questions about whether Beer can even play LF, putting even more pressure on the bat to be elite. I don't want him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    Ronald: 8-10 (high end if he reaches his potential)
    Ozzie: 3-4
    Dansby: 2

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    Dansby: 2-3 WAR
    Albies: 3 WAR
    Acuna: 3-4 WAR

    That gets you 8-10 right there. Add an improved pitching staff (it wouldn't have to be all that great to be improved from its current state) and get a serviceable 3B, and you're basically there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    Gotta find a solution at 3rd. I don't think there's anything internal there to solve that issue for a few years.
    I'd be fine giving Camargo a full time tryout at 3B and hitting 8th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    I'd be fine giving Camargo a full time tryout at 3B and hitting 8th.
    I would as well. I think his exit velo increasing is REAL. He has the arm for it no doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Dansby: 2-3 WAR
    Albies: 3 WAR
    Acuna: 3-4 WAR

    That gets you 8-10 right there. Add an improved pitching staff (it wouldn't have to be all that great to be improved from its current state) and get a serviceable 3B, and you're basically there.
    I think expecting these guys to essentially be all stars is a little nuts.

    We saw what happened to dansby this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I think expecting these guys to essentially be all stars is a little nuts.

    We saw what happened to dansby this year
    A 2-3 WAR player isn't an 'All-Star caliber' guy, it's slightly above-average. These numbers basically put all 3 in the solid-to-good category. These are figures I think they can reasonably hit by 2019.

    Will they all hit that? I don't know. Maybe Dansby never figures it out. But maybe Acuna gets to 6 WAR by age 21 and gives you the value of both anyway.

    There are plenty of variables, we have no idea what will happen. But how does this team add 15 wins? It's not that hard to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I think expecting these guys to essentially be all stars is a little nuts.

    We saw what happened to dansby this year
    In fairness, Dansby wasn't good in AA, much less AAA.

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    There's a lot of bears after Dansby these days. If someone is this quick to dismiss him after a lousy half season, then they shouldn't ever post their arbitrary prospect rankings ever again because they obviously don't mean very much.

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    A short list of Braves to wear #7. Some of these guys drove us crazy. Is 7 a jinxed # in our franchise?

    Dansby Swanson (2017)
    Gordon Beckham (2016)
    Jonny Gomes (2015)
    Tommy La Stella (2014)
    Reed Johnson (2013)
    J.C. Boscan (2012)
    Brooks Conrad (2011)
    Jeff Francoeur (2005-2009)
    J.D. Drew (2004)
    Keith Lockhart (1999-2002)
    Mark DeRosa (1998)
    Kenny Lofton (1997)
    Dwight Smith (1995-1996)
    Melvin Nieves (1992)
    Jody Davis (1989-1990)
    Brad Komminsk (1983-1984)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    Phillies- 38-64 (.373)
    Giants- 40-66 (.377)
    White Sox- 40-62 (.392)
    Reds- 42-63 (.400)
    Athletics- 46-59 (.438)
    Padres- 47-58 (.448)
    Tigers- 47-56 (.456)
    Braves- 48-55 (.466)
    Mets- 48-55 (.466)
    Blue Jays- 49-56 (.467)
    Marlins- 49-54 (.476)

    If we are going to make a run at this, this Phillies series seems like the turning point.

    3-game set with LA starts Tuesday.
    I have reason to believe! They can do this!
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    Early this season I mentioned that Danaby taking#7 might jinx him. I was assured that he had the skills to overcome the curse. Obviously, his problems are bigger than just a uniform number change, but when he returns maybe we should move him back to #2 or even try unretiring #3 for him (jk).

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    1.) Phillies...39-65
    2.) Giants...41-67
    3.) White Sox...41-63
    4.) Reds...43-63
    5.) Athletics...47-60
    6.) Padres...48-58
    7.) Tigers...48-57
    7.) Braves...48-57
    9.) Mutts...48-56
    10.) Blue Jays...50-57
    11.) Rangers...50-56
    12.) Marlins...50-55
    13.) Twins...50-54
    14.) Pirates...51-55
    15.) Angels...52-55
    16.) Orioles...52-54
    16.) Cardinals...52-54


    That's everyone below .500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreemanFan View Post
    Early this season I mentioned that Danaby taking#7 might jinx him. I was assured that he had the skills to overcome the curse. Obviously, his problems are bigger than just a uniform number change, but when he returns maybe we should move him back to #2 or even try unretiring #3 for him (jk).
    But do you want to be wearing #2 when playing like #2... why leave yourself open like that..
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    3-4 WAR for Ronald next year is seriously underestimating the young man.

    I know he has a baby face, but he's a true 30/30 threat. I think he's going to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    3-4 WAR for Ronald next year is seriously underestimating the young man.

    I know he has a baby face, but he's a true 30/30 threat. I think he's going to do it.
    you are joking. He'll be 20 with a handful of at bats. I'd put him down for 2 WAR and maybe some more.

    He's not hitting 30 jacks next year at 20 y/o. Harper and Trout do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    you are joking. He'll be 20 with a handful of at bats. I'd put him down for 2 WAR and maybe some more.

    He's not hitting 30 jacks next year at 20 y/o. Harper and Trout do that?
    Trout did.

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    A-Rod had 36 HR at age 20 with the Mariners.

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    The Acuna hyperbole is fun, but he would have to be one of the all-time greats to post a 30/30 season at 20. Is it possible? Sure, it's possible. Is it likely or close to probable? Of course not.

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    30/30 is silly.. I am thinking 28/35 personally.
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