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    Hot long does it take Snitker to realize Venters is in the bullpen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I'm assuming someone has to be DFA'd here. No room on the 40 to just DL.
    There were actually only 39 on the 40 man roster after they DFA'd someone earlier.

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    Evan Phillips down...wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Evan Phillips down...wow.
    Yeah. Apparently they're being "patient" with Sam Freeman. I don't think patience is the right word. I think denial is the right word.

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    Sam Freeman is trash!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzie's Chainz View Post
    Sam Freeman is trash!
    As valuable as this type of in depth analysis is, Freeman's .318 xwOBA suggests he is the 5th best arm out of the Braves BP behind Minter, Winkler, Viz and Biddle

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    Freeman has been hot garbage for awhile, but he's a also been rode harder than.... well you know. Maybe with Venters in the fold, Freeman will get a little more rest and be sharper in future appearances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    As valuable as this type of in depth analysis is, Freeman's .318 xwOBA suggests he is the 5th best arm out of the Braves BP behind Minter, Winkler, Viz and Biddle
    Yeah. I think Freeman is worth holding too. Any sort of analysis would indicate this. Heck even watching the games closely would reveal he's got good stuff and has been a bit unlucky (as in every mistake pitch is getting crushed which generally does not happen). Plus he's been a bit up and down, partly due to how hard he's been used during certain stretches.
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    I suggested getting Venters back after the Rays sent him down earlier this year coming off his great ST. He was always a favorite of mine, so good to have him back. I think he can still help us but I do not trust Snit not to misuse him and screw it up. As I said before, Snit is why we are not in first and why I doubt we hold on to the last Wild Card much longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    I suggested getting Venters back after the Rays sent him down earlier this year coming off his great ST. He was always a favorite of mine, so good to have him back. I think he can still help us but I do not trust Snit not to misuse him and screw it up. As I said before, Snit is why we are not in first and why I doubt we hold on to the last Wild Card much longer.
    Its not going to be easy navigating a pennant race with the current pen. But it is a workable group in the hands of a good bullpen manager. It'll be a good test for Snit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Its not going to be easy navigating a pennant race with the current pen. But it is a workable group in the hands of a good bullpen manager. It'll be a good test for Snit.
    IOW, you expect him to continue to fail at it too.

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    If AA's plan is actually to give Snitker rope to hang himself with by not making major changes, I'm perfectly fine with throwing away 2018 to better later.

    But at the same time, part of the story is on the players, and it's just honest to say that the season started spiraling down the drain with the Facebook game over a month ago. It was when Freddie Freeman stopped playing at a special level for quite a long time and for the most part really the team returned to being a pushover, outside of a 3 game sweep of the Cards and a surprise win against the Yankees. If this 11-16 stretch continues for another 20 games or so, like I hinted at in one post, you have to very seriously question if this was actually sadly a true talent 75-76 win team that overachieved for 71 games and then it really puts 2019 into question, even with a new manager because managers do cost games, they don't cost a ton of games however, it's more like maybe 3.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    IOW, you expect him to continue to fail at it too.
    I'm meh on Snit as a bullpen manager. I think he has distributed the workload decently, except for the early season abuse of Freeman. Sometimes he seems befuddled about how to use Biddle. I think he has to coax more out of the starting pitchers. We'll see how he handles a pennant race.
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    The theory that AA is doing nothing to get Snitker fired is fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    The theory that AA is doing nothing to get Snitker fired is fun.
    If AA we're doing this for real, I'd want him fired

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    As valuable as this type of in depth analysis is, Freeman's .318 xwOBA suggests he is the 5th best arm out of the Braves BP behind Minter, Winkler, Viz and Biddle
    Being the 5th best bullpen arm in our bullpen's recent state is like bragging about being the tallest midget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzie's Chainz View Post
    Being the 5th best bullpen arm in our bullpen's recent state is like bragging about being the tallest midget.
    Intelli Braves understand that Freeman is a perfectly acceptable member of the BP, and several others should be replaced before he is.

    You are not one of those people.

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    Freeman isn’t 5.00 era bad, but he’s nothing special. Walks too many batters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleBrave View Post
    Freeman isn’t 5.00 era bad, but he’s nothing special. Walks too many batters.
    he's serviceable in his current role now that Venters is the primary situational lefty...he can give you multiple innings and can get opposite handed hitters out...that has value...
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