Lets say..

[zbhargrove]

One should be forced to give up watching and commenting on baseball if one calls Josh Donaldson "garbage."

He doesn't watch it.

[Horsehide Harry]

I think the Braves will end up either signing Frazier for 3B or trading for Donaldson or Headley. I think it probably goes: trade for Donaldson, sign Frazier, trade for Headley in the thought process which kicks the problem can of 3B down the road a year or two.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Yes! Bring Jason back too!

Lol Upton had his best numbers with Atlanta. Plus his numbers been going up the last few months.

[rico43]

At this stage, I would re-sign Suzuki (much cheaper than Lucroy), consider Swanson expendable and try to offer the Marlins a sweet deal that includes Adams, Allard, Muller and Pache (flexible) and bring in Christian Yelich and bad contract of Prado.

Look at Yelich's contract. Can't believe he took this:

7 years/$49.57M (2015-21), plus 2022 option
signed extension with Miami 3/22/15,
15:$0.57M, 16:$1M, 17:$3.5M, 18:$7M, 19:$9.75M, 20:$12.5M, 21:$14M, 22:$15M club option ($1.25M buyout). He would only be 30 in 2022.

Camargo holds down short, Prado moves back to third

Prado owed $28.5 million the next two years

[clvclv]

At this stage, I would re-sign Suzuki (much cheaper than Lucroy), consider Swanson expendable and try to offer the Marlins a sweet deal that includes Adams, Allard, Muller and Pache (flexible) and bring in Christian Yelich and bad contract of Prado.

Look at Yelich's contract. Can't believe he took this:

7 years/$49.57M (2015-21), plus 2022 option
signed extension with Miami 3/22/15,
15:$0.57M, 16:$1M, 17:$3.5M, 18:$7M, 19:$9.75M, 20:$12.5M, 21:$14M, 22:$15M club option ($1.25M buyout). He would only be 30 in 2022.

Camargo holds down short, Prado moves back to third

Prado owed $28.5 million the next two years

The problem is that this will cost you an arm (or two) that no one wants to trade to make it happen - an Allard/Gohara/Soroka type. They're stupid, but not stupid enough to give Yelich away to save $28.5 million.

If Coppy could make that happen for Fried and Wentz, I'd hope everyone would jump.

[Carp]

Donaldson is garbage. Rather ride with a makeshift third base by committee than pay him anything. I think it's pretty clear the Braves won't spend big money at all. Look at the free agents they brought in this past winter.

I wish we had more "garbage." We might actually be a playoff team with "garbage" like that.

[Carp]

Look at his numbers this season and compare it around the league. He doesn't stack up considering he's getting like 14 million a season. I don't care that's he's been hurt either. That just further proves he isn't worth it.

I compared it. It's still pretty damn impressive actually.

[smootness]

The problem is that this will cost you an arm (or two) that no one wants to trade to make it happen - an Allard/Gohara/Soroka type. They're stupid, but not stupid enough to give Yelich away to save $28.5 million.

If Coppy could make that happen for Fried and Wentz, I'd hope everyone would jump.

He included Allard in his offer.

[smootness]

Rico, Camargo is not holding down SS. If our left side of the infield is Camargo and Prado, we're not competing for anything.

[clvclv]

He included Allard in his offer.

Completely missed that - my bad rico! Just had time to scan stuff quickly.

[NinersSBChamps]

Machado's "garbage" too, right?

Is he 30 and rapidly declining?

[NinersSBChamps]

So this is also a Josh Donaldson fan board too?

[gilesfan]

Look at his numbers this season and compare it around the league. He doesn't stack up considering he's getting like 14 million a season. I don't care that's he's been hurt either. That just further proves he isn't worth it.

He's hitting 27% above league average.

[gilesfan]

This is the difficulty when building a team. Donaldson has slowed down some this year, but guess what, you arent signing any free agents that are 25 years old and at the top of the league. Yeah, you overpay for free agents, it's just the world you live in.

The signing of Donaldson would remind me a lot of the Nats signing Werth. There would be a couple good years and a couple bad years, but it does establish the franchise as a team that is ready to try and win. We aren't winning anything with a bunch of kids, you have to have some sort of a mixture.

[NinersSBChamps]

This is the difficulty when building a team. Donaldson has slowed down some this year, but guess what, you arent signing any free agents that are 25 years old and at the top of the league. Yeah, you overpay for free agents, it's just the world you live in.

The signing of Donaldson would remind me a lot of the Nats signing Werth. There would be a couple good years and a couple bad years, but it does establish the franchise as a team that is ready to try and win. We aren't winning anything with a bunch of kids, you have to have some sort of a mixture.

The people here and the front office clearly don't understand that concept.

[Super]

The people here and the front office clearly don't understand that concept.

did the guy who called Josh Donaldson "garbage" just accuse people of not understanding things

[Russ2dollas]

This is the difficulty when building a team. Donaldson has slowed down some this year, but guess what, you arent signing any free agents that are 25 years old and at the top of the league. Yeah, you overpay for free agents, it's just the world you live in.

The signing of Donaldson would remind me a lot of the Nats signing Werth. There would be a couple good years and a couple bad years, but it does establish the franchise as a team that is ready to try and win. We aren't winning anything with a bunch of kids, you have to have some sort of a mixture.

agree. It's not a contest of who handles assets the bests. You have to win games.

FA will be over paid and ATL will likely have to overpay vs some others.

[Hudson2]

I know Stanton has a big deal but if I could send Kemp in a deal for him I'd be all over it. Something like Kemp, Allard, and Dustin Peterson for Stanton. He can opt out after 2020 and I could see him doing it if he knows he can get a longer deal or more money.

[mfree80]

I know Stanton has a big deal but if I could send Kemp in a deal for him I'd be all over it. Something like Kemp, Allard, and Dustin Peterson for Stanton. He can opt out after 2020 and I could see him doing it if he knows he can get a longer deal or more money.

You may very well be right on target.... but that opt out (or not) is a huge risk for a team like the Braves to take on.

[gilesfan]

At this stage, I would re-sign Suzuki (much cheaper than Lucroy), consider Swanson expendable and try to offer the Marlins a sweet deal that includes Adams, Allard, Muller and Pache (flexible) and bring in Christian Yelich and bad contract of Prado.

Look at Yelich's contract. Can't believe he took this:

7 years/$49.57M (2015-21), plus 2022 option
signed extension with Miami 3/22/15,
15:$0.57M, 16:$1M, 17:$3.5M, 18:$7M, 19:$9.75M, 20:$12.5M, 21:$14M, 22:$15M club option ($1.25M buyout). He would only be 30 in 2022.

Camargo holds down short, Prado moves back to third

Prado owed $28.5 million the next two years

That is a good idea. We should be targeting guys that will be entering their prime soon with year of control under their belt. Mix in a couple FA moves, but the most successful option will be giving up prospects for guys "like" Yelich.