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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Beto comes out and supports third term abortions.

    The left is just a bunch of sick ****s.
    Beto is a lightweight, and that’s saying a lot in a field with some real bozos. He’s probably lurching left to try to out “progressive” the field in response to criticisms of male privilege, white privilege, growing up with too much money, etc.

    Exhibit A - https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...rom-left%3famp

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    https://www.apnews.com/fe7c9d4a9f8f458c827677d31230f594

    Are you telling me the party of science is lying? Between this and fake collusion that left has become a hysterical joke.

    The planet will end in 12 years if you dont give us all the power!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Elizabeth Warren
    ‏Verified account @ewarren
    2h2 hours ago

    Slavery is a stain on America & we need to address it head on.

    I believe it’s time to start a national, full-blown conversation

    about reparations. I support the bill in the House to support a

    congressional panel of experts so that our nation can do

    what’s right & begin to heal.



    If one is keeping up one would know that David Brooks said as much last week
    Making it text book mainstream
    How does this help anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    “Having a decent and safe place to live should be a basic human right.”

    —#WarrenTownHall
    We've graduated from housing to decent and safe housing.

    Man the bill of rights continues to evolve

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Out of the blue you are an Electoral College guy
    Funny

    unconstitutional ?
    By the letter of the constitution AA ( if he is African ?? ) is only 3/5 the worth of your white ass

    defend it ?
    I dont think it goes far enough !!!


    Check the polling of those policies where you find yourself behind the eight ball -- again.

    Of course you favor the electoral college --- you wouldn't have gotten your Iraq War or your tax cut
    "My Iraq war" lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    https://www.apnews.com/fe7c9d4a9f8f458c827677d31230f594

    Are you telling me the party of science is lying? Between this and fake collusion that left has become a hysterical joke.

    The planet will end in 12 years if you dont give us all the power!
    Nothing from the climate alarmists here? Figures...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I guess you could play this game all day, because it definitely cuts both ways.

    You being such a fan of strict adherence to the Constitution, I thought you might find clinging to the filibuster as particularly odd, since the framers pretty clearly intended business to get done on a majority vote. The current de facto 60-vote threshold is a recent innovation. It’s based on Senate rules, not the Constitution, and Senate rules can and do change. Eliminating it would bring the body more in line with the Constitution.

    If we’re suddenly concerned with norms and traditions around judicial nominations, why are we saying nothing when Republicans now decide to ignore the “blue-slip” system which allows home-state senators to hold up nominations? Is a good system? Maybe not, but Republicans insisted on honoring it when Obama was nominating judges, and ignoring it when Trump is nominating judges. Same with ABA ratings for judicial nominees. Republicans are stacking the courts with ideological activists, some of whom are unqualified to serve, specifically to be a backstop against actual democracy.

    The Constitution similarly does not set the number of Supreme Court justices. Congress does. It’s varied over the years from as few as 5 to as many as 10. Changing it would be political hardball, yeah. So was holding up the lawful nomination of a qualified candidate for over a year.

    My solution is and has always been this: make the franchise as widely available as possible, make it practical and feasible for more people to register and vote without undue restrictions. If the legislative branch, particularly, was the product of a more robust democracy, I’d expect that a lot of things might change. You might call it sour grapes from losing elections, but I’d say the greater evil arguing to perpetuate a system that is the fruit of the suppression of a truly representative democracy.

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    Just dont question the legitimacy of an election. Because that of course we were told was effectively treason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I guess you could play this game all day, because it definitely cuts both ways.

    You being such a fan of strict adherence to the Constitution, I thought you might find clinging to the filibuster as particularly odd, since the framers pretty clearly intended business to get done on a majority vote. The current de facto 60-vote threshold is a recent innovation. It’s based on Senate rules, not the Constitution, and Senate rules can and do change. Eliminating it would bring the body more in line with the Constitution.

    If we’re suddenly concerned with norms and traditions around judicial nominations, why are we saying nothing when Republicans now decide to ignore the “blue-slip” system which allows home-state senators to hold up nominations? Is a good system? Maybe not, but Republicans insisted on honoring it when Obama was nominating judges, and ignoring it when Trump is nominating judges. Same with ABA ratings for judicial nominees. Republicans are stacking the courts with ideological activists, some of whom are unqualified to serve, specifically to be a backstop against actual democracy.

    The Constitution similarly does not set the number of Supreme Court justices. Congress does. It’s varied over the years from as few as 5 to as many as 10. Changing it would be political hardball, yeah. So was holding up the lawful nomination of a qualified candidate for over a year.

    My solution is and has always been this: make the franchise as widely available as possible, make it practical and feasible for more people to register and vote without undue restrictions. If the legislative branch, particularly, was the product of a more robust democracy, I’d expect that a lot of things might change. You might call it sour grapes from losing elections, but I’d say the greater evil arguing to perpetuate a system that is the fruit of the suppression of a truly representative democracy.
    I think it is very telling how broad the coalition of "change the rules if things dont go our away" has become

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Just dont question the legitimacy of an election. Because that of course we were told was effectively treason.
    Abrams and Guiliam are the rightful governors, of course.

    (The party of science of course requires no evidence)

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    Bernie Sanders
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    For every one billionaire in America there are about 70,000 people living in poverty.

    I don't think it's a radical idea to say that we should make sure our people's basic

    human rights are met before giving tax breaks to the richest 1%.
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    It is truly weiothay Bernie has three houses and pays lower tax rate than me..

    Such a hero

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Beto comes out and supports third term abortions.

    The left is just a bunch of sick ****s.
    lol
    "For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman

    "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    It is truly weiothay Bernie has three houses and pays lower tax rate than me..

    Such a hero
    Hero ?
    Just a candidate / public figure making a good point

    And yesterday the candidate you will vote for made fun of the (D) candidate from... 1988
    And blamed the closing of a plant on union dues
    Some hero you got there

    ............

    dont understand what is so unusual for a man in his late 70's owning 3 homes ?
    my brother in his mid 60's has 4, a friend in his late 60's has 3 I own 2 etc etc etc

    In my case Grasshopper my wife and I worked for over 45 years and in the course of that time people accumulate things.
    Cars,tools,instruments,knick-knacks, TV's, furniture, clothing,property of all sorts.
    Lately vinyl records and tractors
    It is called the fruits of ones labor.

    The issue in this case is not the accumulation of property but the over-accumulation of wealth.
    Nothing wrong with either really. Until it becomes accumulation for accumulations sake

    One more and I will stop.
    You and the boys seem fascinated with celebrity gossip
    Just an observation
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    It is truly weiothay Bernie has three houses and pays lower tax rate than me..

    Such a hero
    yeah, lets talk bout heroes !!
    you throw the word around a lot.
    Is this an AGconservative method ?
    All things being equal, this is your hero



    But, Bernie Sanders and his wife own 3 houses
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    The issue in this case is not the accumulation of property but the over-accumulation of wealth.
    Nothing wrong with either really. Until it becomes accumulation for accumulations sake
    Not sure what gives you or Bernie the authority (or ability) to define where that line exists.

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    I dont. You and I vote for people that collectivly decide.

    Bernie has a seat at that table

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Nothing from the climate alarmists here? Figures...
    Literally the only things this is refuting is the idea that the Earth is irredeemably ****ed by 2030. It makes plenty of mention of the imminent need to make drastic changes.

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