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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    It was reported there's 4 players going to the Sox. Clarkin, Ruth, and Clippard. Not sure if it's a big money guy from NY or a lower level prospect.

    In general other than Rutherford, Yankees arent giving up that much. Still keeping Mateo, Gleybar, Frazier, Fowler, Sheffield, Adams, Florial, and Andrujar.
    It's a prospect, but the fact that the Yanks are sending Clippard to unload any amount of money is notable. They never do that.

    And nothing other than Rutherford? Nothing other than a Top 30-35 position prospect? Yeah, that's nothing of note haha.

    I know you are going to downplay this trade to keep your "Braves are #1" narrative alive, but the ChiSox just made an incredible move packaging these pieces together to get a significant return. I have been stating the Braves need to do the same thing for a month now...but they think they can contend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    It's a prospect, but the fact that the Yanks are sending Clippard to unload any amount of money is notable. They never do that.

    And nothing other than Rutherford? Nothing other than a Top 30-35 position prospect? Yeah, that's nothing of note haha.

    I know you are going to downplay this trade to keep your "Braves are #1" narrative alive, but the ChiSox just made an incredible move packaging these pieces together to get a significant return. I have been stating the Braves need to do the same thing for a month now...but they think they can contend.
    Im talking nothing as in they didnt get Rutherford AND another top 100 prospect in return.

    Clippard, a low pitching prospect, and Rutherford isnt a fleece. Getting Rutherford is a great get though, kid can hit.

    And yes, Braves top system isnt crazy, but White Sox system is certainly loaded, no arguing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Sarcasm?

    There's a ton of good bats set to be available that winter and we should have some money to spend by then.
    Yes i understand there great and good players but what i mean is that the player the Braves need to try to make sure come back is Kimbrel. The other we will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixiXSolidXixi View Post
    Yes i understand there great and good players but what i mean is that the player the Braves need to try to make sure come back is Kimbrel. The other we will see.
    I wouldnt make a play for Kimbrel by then.

    He'll be 31-32 by then and be poised to get overpaid.

    We have a glut of arms we can put at closer anyway, interested to see if Minter could be up for the task by then.

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    Well is the same with player like Donaldson. He is right know 31 by 2019 will be 33 and he will be over pay. But look at player like Mariano Rivera, Trevor Hoffman they dominated Baseball at late 30's.

    We need to move Kemp or Markakis and get a player like JD Martinez that he is playing great and he will don't have any draft compensation attach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Headley is about a 2 win per year improvement over what the Braves have trotted out to 3B the last 3 years.

    If they can get him for free it would be a decent move.
    I was wondering about an Adams for Headley deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    I was wondering about an Adams for Headley deal.
    I would think the Braves could just have headley if they would just take on the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    I would think the Braves could just have headley if they would just take on the money.
    True, but my thought was Adams with his albeit limited value might help with either cash or other players returned. They could probably use Garcia too.

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    I been reading that Todd Frazier will play first base apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    True, but my thought was Adams with his albeit limited value might help with either cash or other players returned. They could probably use Garcia too.
    Yeah, I would do a Adams and Garcia trade for Headly, Andujar and Florial.

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    To NYY: Robertson, Kahnle and T. Frazier
    To CWS: Rutherford, Clarkin, Clippard and Polo

    Good deal for both sides, wouldnt say a fleecing either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    To NYY: Robertson, Kahnle and T. Frazier
    To CWS: Rutherford, Clarkin, Clippard and Polo

    Good deal for both sides, wouldnt say a fleecing either way.
    Packaging those parts together to get Rutherford was very good move.

    I hope Coppy is paying attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    Yeah, I would do a Adams and Garcia trade for Headly, Andujar and Florial.
    If they get Andujar why do they want Headley? Garcia plus Adams for Andujar would be just fine.

    If Frazier plays 1B the Braves just lost the only real contender that needed Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Packaging those parts together to get Rutherford was very good move.

    I hope Coppy is paying attention.
    Took one big headliner over multiple good pieces, smart strategy.

    If we trade Julio who seems like we'll deal next, hopefully we do the same. But needs to rebuild his value back first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Took one big headliner over multiple good pieces, smart strategy.

    If we trade Julio who seems like we'll deal next, hopefully we do the same. But needs to rebuild his value back first.
    Coppy can do something similar by packaging 2-3 of Adams, BP, Garcia, Suzuki, Viz and JJ. He obviously won't get a prospect of Rutherford's caliber, but a Top 100 guy isn't out of the question.

    He has to get this silly notion of contending out of his head first though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Coppy can do something similar by packaging 2-3 of Adams, BP, Garcia, Suzuki, Viz and JJ. He obviously won't get a prospect of Rutherford's caliber, but a Top 100 guy isn't out of the question.

    He has to get this silly notion of contending out of his head first though.
    If we go 1-6/2-5 this week, that will probably knock us out of contention. Or lose every game this week.

    But i agree a package of Adams, Garcia, and another piece could net a top 100 prospect. Individually they wont bring much in return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    If we go 1-6/2-5 this week, that will probably knock us out of contention. Or lose every game this week.

    But i agree a package of Adams, Garcia, and another piece could net a top 100 prospect. Individually they wont bring much in return.
    The Braves are out of contention now.

    This stupid notion that the Braves are contenders likely caused the Braves to miss out on their only real trade partner for Adams already (if Frazier goes to 1B).

    Let's stop with the silliness and face reality, mmkay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The Braves are out of contention now.

    This stupid notion that the Braves are contenders likely caused the Braves to miss out on their only real trade partner for Adams already (if Frazier goes to 1B).

    Let's stop with the silliness and face reality, mmkay?
    I never thought we were legit contenders but to Coppy and others a bad week would put him in sell mode.

    Comprende?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    I never thought we were legit contenders but to Coppy and others a bad week would put him in sell mode.

    Comprende?
    Great, too bad it took that long. Contenders have already made deals for parts the Braves should be selling. Meanwhile, Coppy is wasting time looking to add "win now" pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Great, too bad it took that long. Contenders have already made deals for parts the Braves should be selling. Meanwhile, Coppy is wasting time looking to add "win now" pieces.
    Quintana would have been a great add depending what we had to give up.

    Great contract and AL to NL always works.

    But i agree the trade partners are lessening but there's still about 1.5 weeks til the deadline

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