The Obesity Thread

[Runnin]

Obesity is a choice.

Most people became fat because of lifestyle habits they started long before the causes of obesity were known. And most still don't know why they put on so much weight.

So no, that's a very cold and uniformed statement.

[sturg33]

Remember when the government and "experts" made every child learn a food pyramid that told us to eat 6 bowls of cereal per day but to take it easy on eggs and protein?

**** the "experts"

[Tapate50]

We were banned from outdoor activities like playing in the park during Covid, but come to find out that’s just what everyone needed to be doing

Heck some people even wished those outlaws dead

[Runnin]

Remember when the government and "experts" made every child learn a food pyramid that told us to eat 6 bowls of cereal per day but to take it easy on eggs and protein?

**** the "experts"

I don't remember 6 bowls a day but "the experts", in close agreement with Proctor and Gamble, have been wrong about a lot. The American diet promoted for decades by the FDA causes unhealthy weight gain, which leads to inflammation, obesity and all sorts of bad stuff.

And doctors giving insulin medicine to Type 2 diabetes patients only make things worse, when all most people need to do is to stop eating empty carbs and practice a little fasting, which coincidentally is a LOT cheaper than insulin medicine.

[Tapate50]

Anyone else get their murph in today ?

My 10 yo even ran the miles with me today. Proud of him

[Tapate50]

https://www.earth.com/news/millions-...ense-exercise/

Quite the headline.

16.5 M Americans at risk during high intensity exercise

[sturg33]

You can be obese or you can be an alt-right nazi

[Runnin]

[thewupk]

Sugar is one of the most addictive substances out there. It's hard but I do try to avoid it and keep to a keto type diet.

[Tapate50]

McDonalds has sugar in their quarter pounder... mind boggling.

[Tapate50]

Was listening to RFK Jr the other day and some of his legal work against Monsanto and its use of glyphosate on different crops.... Celiac disease came to prominence around 2006 at just about the exact time wheat farmers started spraying their wheat with glyphosate as a faster drying agent. It is still measurable in the end product and we have built up levels of it in our bodies as a result.

My wife was diagnosed with Celiac in 2007.

Glyphosate is Roundup if you didn't know.

[nsacpi]

is the theory that glyphosate causes celiacs disease a conspiracy theory or is there solid evidence for it.
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The theory that glyphosate causes celiac disease is a conspiracy theory. There is no solid evidence to support this claim. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disease that is caused by gluten, a protein found in wheat, barley, and rye. Glyphosate is a herbicide that is used to kill weeds. It is not known to have any effect on the immune system.

There have been some studies that have suggested a possible link between glyphosate and celiac disease. However, these studies have been small and have not been able to prove that glyphosate is actually the cause of celiac disease. Additionally, the results of these studies have been mixed. Some studies have shown a link between glyphosate exposure and celiac disease, while others have not.

The scientific consensus is that there is no solid evidence to support the claim that glyphosate causes celiac disease. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the European Food Safety Authority, and the World Health Organization have all concluded that glyphosate is safe for human consumption.

It is important to note that celiac disease is a serious condition that can cause a variety of health problems. If you are concerned that you may have celiac disease, it is important to see a doctor for testing.

[nsacpi]

Teff is a cultivated grass used as a substitute for wheat in certain parts of the world (notably Ethiopia where it is a staple).

Teff does not contain gluten.

People with celiac can eat foods made from teff without any problems. Even teff sprayed with glyphosate. This would support the proposition that the problem for people with celiac is gluten not glyphosate.

[Tapate50]

is the theory that glyphosate causes celiacs disease a conspiracy theory or is there solid evidence for it.
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The theory that glyphosate causes celiac disease is a conspiracy theory. There is no solid evidence to support this claim. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disease that is caused by gluten, a protein found in wheat, barley, and rye. Glyphosate is a herbicide that is used to kill weeds. It is not known to have any effect on the immune system.

There have been some studies that have suggested a possible link between glyphosate and celiac disease. However, these studies have been small and have not been able to prove that glyphosate is actually the cause of celiac disease. Additionally, the results of these studies have been mixed. Some studies have shown a link between glyphosate exposure and celiac disease, while others have not.

The scientific consensus is that there is no solid evidence to support the claim that glyphosate causes celiac disease. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the European Food Safety Authority, and the World Health Organization have all concluded that glyphosate is safe for human consumption.

It is important to note that celiac disease is a serious condition that can cause a variety of health problems. If you are concerned that you may have celiac disease, it is important to see a doctor for testing.

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal...awsuit-update/

[Tapate50]

Bayer, which bought Monsanto, the manufacturer of the glyphosate-containing herbicide Roundup, has offered $10.9 billion to settle most Roundup cancer lawsuits. The company has also settled some cases that went to trial, sometimes for millions of dollars. Future Roundup settlements are still possible.

Person spraying Roundup weed killer
Latest Roundup Lawsuit Settlement Updates
A growing number of studies have linked glyphosate, the main ingredient in Bayer’s Roundup, to an increased risk of certain cancers. Plaintiffs allege that the glyphosate-based herbicide led to their cancer diagnoses and have successfully sued Bayer in court. Many individuals have joined class-action lawsuits against Bayer, but most of these suits have not been settled. Claimants may still qualify to file a lawsuit against the company for financial compensation.

As of December 2022, claimants in more than 100,000 Roundup lawsuits had reached settlements equaling approximately $100 billion, according to legal experts, with more trials and settlements expected. More Roundup trials are scheduled for June 2023 in Florida, San Diego and Missouri.

Roundup Litigation Timeline
June 2023: There were approximately 4,193 Roundup lawsuits still open in federal multidistrict litigation in the Northern District of California. Bayer also settled claims with New York over misleading consumers about the safety of Roundup in the environment.
May 2023: The U.S. Supreme Court decided not to intervene in a $39 million Roundup class-action settlement where plaintiffs accused Monsanto (the previous manufacturer of Roundup) of misleading consumers about the health risks of Roundup.
March 2023: Bayer asked the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit to uphold the dismissal of a Roundup warning-label lawsuit, citing federal pesticide labeling laws.
December 2022: Bayer settled with a plaintiff who was set to go to court, but the settlement amount is unknown.
June 2022: The Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal from Bayer that could have put a stop to future litigation against the company. The Supreme Court also allowed a multimillion-dollar verdict against Bayer that said the company failed to warn of cancer risks.
May 2022: The Biden administration asked the U.S. Supreme Court to reject Bayer’s appeal of a lower court’s decision to award a California resident $25 million in damages.
February 2022: Bayer agreed to pay between $23 million and $45 million in a Roundup lawsuit. Plaintiffs allege they paid too much for the product because the company didn’t inform them of health risks associated with the herbicide.
November 2021: The Supreme Court of California rejected Bayer’s attempt to reverse a ruling that awarded $86 million to a couple who both developed cancer after regular Roundup exposure.
May 2021: A judge denied Bayer’s request to provide a $2 billion fund to settle any future cases against the company concerning the health risks of using Roundup, stating that the amount was insufficient.
June 2020: Although not admitting liability, Bayer agreed to pay $10.9 billion to settle almost 100,000 lawsuits in the U.S.
June 2018 to November 2019: Courts award multiple verdicts of millions of dollars to plaintiffs who claimed Roundup use caused them to develop non-Hodgkin lymphoma.
Bayer has responded to the latest influx of Roundup settlement cases by creating a five-point response plan. Bayer will petition the U.S. Supreme Court to allow the company to review and appeal future verdicts, create a claims program and fund to manage future cases and create new herbicide formulations that do not use glyphosate. It also will request permission from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to promote an informational webpage created by Bayer covering glyphosate risks.

The company reached a $6.9 million settlement in June 2023 with New York after the state’s Attorney General filed claims accusing Bayer of misleading consumers. As part of the settlement, Bayer can no longer advertise Roundup containing glyphosate as safe and non-toxic to the environment. The settlement funds will help pay for measures to limit the impact of pesticides on pollinators and aquatic species.

[Tapate50]

Food Safety
What Is Glyphosate and What Does It Have to Do with Celiac Disease?
Glyphosate is an herbicide that kills broadleaf plants and grasses. It is one of the most widely used herbicides in the United States and is found in Roundup, a product originally created by Monsanto Company and now sold via Bayer, which acquired Monsanto in 2018. The company also produces Roundup-ready seed genetically modified to resist glyphosate, allowing farmers to kill weeds without affecting their crops. Some farmers spray crops with Roundup to kill plants and speed the drying of grain. This gives them more control over when they can harvest crops.

The weed killer is the subject of hot debate in the scientific community, especially regarding whether it causes cancer. But one study has raised concern about a possible connection between glyphosate and celiac disease.

The 2013 study suggested there was a connection between the growing use of glyphosate and an increase in celiac disease, but its conclusions were controversial and have been called into question by other scientists.

Mainly, the study was faulted for not providing any real evidence that the herbicide was connected to celiac disease and for putting forward theories as fact. No additional research on the connection has been published by other scientists.

For patients, that means there is much more we don’t know than we do know about glyphosate and celiac disease and gluten sensitivity. Robust and scientifically valid follow-up is needed before any conclusions can be drawn.

What researchers say about celiac disease

Published in the journal Interdisciplinary Toxicology, the study begins by proposing that “glyphosate, the active ingredient in the herbicide, Roundup, is the most important causal factor” in an increase in celiac disease and gluten intolerance worldwide. It concludes that characteristics of celiac disease can be explained by glyphosate properties. The characteristics include deficiencies in some nutrients, an overgrowth of pathogens in the intestine coupled with a decrease in beneficial biota, impaired serotonin signaling and an increased synthesis of metabolites.

“Fish exposed to glyphosate develop digestive problems that are reminiscent of celiac disease. Celiac disease is associated with imbalances in gut bacteria that can be fully explained by the known effects of glyphosate on gut bacteria,” the authors wrote.

Additionally, the study says, celiac disease patients have an increased risk of non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, which has also been implicated in glyphosate exposure. Reproductive issues associated with celiac disease, such as infertility, miscarriages, and birth defects, can also be explained by glyphosate, according to the authors. They hypothesize that the herbicide affects the tight junctions between cells in the intestine, leading to the leaky gut that is associated with celiac disease. They also point to parallel relationships between glyphosate and these conditions in animals.

Study methods challenged

In 2017, a follow-up study was published in the journal Frontiers in Public Health by researchers from the department of medical and molecular genetics, King’s College London. They laid out the debate about “facts and facilities in the debate about glyphosate toxicity.”

The authors describe how controversial glyphosate and other pesticides are in the research world. “Reviews have been published by individuals who are consultants and employees of companies commercializing glyphosate-based herbicides in support of glyphosate’s reapproval by regulatory agencies” the King’s College researchers wrote, noting that the conclusion of the reviews is that glyphosate is safe at levels below regulatory permissible limits. “In contrast, reviews conducted by academic scientists independent of industry report toxic effects below regulatory limits, as well as shortcomings of the current regulatory evaluation of risks associated with glyphosate exposures.”

However, the research related to celiac disease and glyphosate exposure was criticized for being based on deductive reasoning, unsubstantiated theories, and speculation.

The authors of the follow-up study described the deductive reasoning used this way: Since glyphosate could have effects on the gut microbiome and since non-celiac gluten sensitivity is associated with imbalances in gut bacterial populations, glyphosate could fully explain the etiology of this condition.

“We found that their conclusions are not supported by the available scientific evidence,” the authors the wrote, adding that the study about gluten-related disorders “misled the public, the scientific community and regulators.”

The 2017 review also noted that future research investigating the toxicity of these pesticides containing glyphosate, especially at levels of ingestion that are typical for human populations, is much needed. In particular, the authors wrote, “a causative link between glyphosate and gut microbiome-associated intestinal disorders remains hypothetical but nonetheless an important area to be investigated.

Concerns about glyphosate and cancer

The relationship between glyphosate and cancer has been widely investigated, with numerous studies coming to conflicting conclusions.

However, The World Health Organization International Agency for Research on Cancer categorizes glyphosate as “potentially carcinogenic.” Twenty seven countries, from Argentina to Vietnam, ban or restrict its use. However, the United States is not among them, with the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) taking the position that glyphosate “has a low toxicity for people.”

In December 2017, the EPA issued a Draft Risk Assessments for Glyphosate concluding that glyphosate is not likely to be carcinogenic in humans. The agency notes that while the cancer agency for WHO has concluded glyphosate may be a carcinogen, and the Joint Food and Agriculture Organization (WHO) and the European Food Safety Authority have determined that it is unlikely to be a carcinogen.

Meanwhile, California warns consumers about glyphosate, including it on the state’s 65 list of chemicals and substances known to cause cancer. A number of other U.S. cities ban or restrict its use.

In March, a jury awarded a man $80 million in damages in a lawsuit alleging exposure to Roundup caused his non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Last year in the first case to go to trial, a San Francisco jury ruled that Roundup gave a former school groundskeeper terminal cancer. Numerous other lawsuits have also been filed.

Reducing glyphosate exposure

If you would like to reduce your exposure to glyphosates, there are several steps you can take, including:

[Tapate50]

Teff is a cultivated grass used as a substitute for wheat in certain parts of the world (notably Ethiopia where it is a staple).

Teff does not contain gluten.

People with celiac can eat foods made from teff without any problems. Even teff sprayed with glyphosate. This would support the proposition that the problem for people with celiac is gluten not glyphosate.

Not everyone is born with Celiac. It can be condition that is caused by outside factors.

Please direct me to the study showing what you say above?

[nsacpi]

An Ethiopian feast. Bon appetit. The injera (bread upon which the food is placed) is made from teff. Some Ethiopian restaurants in this country use wheat not teff to make injera. If anyone in your dining party has a problem with gluten make sure to ask your waiter what they use to make the injera.

[Tapate50]

I'd probably redirected too if I was you, good call.

Again, no ones talking about Teff but you.

[nsacpi]

Not everyone is born with Celiac. It can be condition that is caused by outside factors.

Please direct me to the study showing what you say above?

Are there studies that show teff is safe for people with celiac.
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Yes, there are studies that show teff is safe for people with celiac disease. Teff is a gluten-free grain, and gluten is the protein that triggers an immune response in people with celiac disease.

One study, published in the journal Nutrition and Metabolism, looked at the effects of teff on people with celiac disease. The study found that people with celiac disease who ate teff did not have any symptoms of gluten intolerance.

Another study, published in the journal Food and Chemical Toxicology, looked at the effects of teff on the gut health of people with celiac disease. The study found that teff helped to improve the gut health of people with celiac disease.

Based on these studies, it is clear that teff is safe for people with celiac disease. If you have celiac disease, you can safely add teff to your diet.

Here are some additional studies that support the safety of teff for people with celiac disease:

A study published in 2015 in the journal Nutrition and Metabolism found that people with celiac disease who ate teff for 12 weeks did not have any symptoms of gluten intolerance.
A study published in 2016 in the journal Food and Chemical Toxicology found that teff helped to improve the gut health of people with celiac disease.
A study published in 2017 in the journal Frontiers in Nutrition found that teff is a good source of nutrients for people with celiac disease.
If you are looking for a gluten-free grain that is safe for people with celiac disease, teff is a great option. It is a good source of nutrients, and it can be used in a variety of dishes.