If I'm the Braves I'm going after Yelich HARD! An OF of Acuna - LF, Inciarte - CF, Yelich - RF would be awesome!
If I'm the Braves I'm going after Yelich HARD! An OF of Acuna - LF, Inciarte - CF, Yelich - RF would be awesome!
If I were the Marlins I wouldn’t even respond to that offer with a counter. They’re going to want a top 10 prospect for those 2. Not just some of our rejects and Allard and Soroka. A deal for them would have to include either Albies or Acura.Originally Posted by Heyward
If they're talking then Acuna probably isnt in the deal. So thats good. Albies i dont think would be in the deal, maybe he would but who knows.
Also considering they didnt get that much for Ozuna im not sure they're going to get as much as yall think. I thought they'd get much more for Ozuna and that didnt happen.
Me either
I’m not sure I do it. I’m just saying you could.
If we get yelich we likely empty the farm. If we get realmuto too I’d think we’d make more moves.
IMO yelich loses some value in lf. I think if the get yelich and realmuto they look to move floers ender and Julio. Use those guys to restock the system at the a or high a level. Sign a lf, 3b sp.
I'd put Yelich in LF since there is already an opening there. Then you can have Acuna replace Markakis in RF when they're ready to bring him up. Yelich was also at his best in LF for the Fish.
It's unlikely Pache will ever be a "Superstar" player. Even if he reaches his potential, you're probably looking at another Ender Inciarte or Billy Hamilton. Pache likely won't ever have more than average power at best and his hit tool (while extremely early) doesn't seem to imply he'll hit for a super high average either.
Pache should not even be a a factor in our decision whether to trade for Yelich or not.
clvclv (01-04-2018)
More likely it's JT being shopped.
Pache has proven to be a far superior hitter at the same stage in their careers/age than Ender. Doesn't mean anything in the long run but there are quite a few scouts that believe Pache has a good deal of development left with his bat and its already in a decent spot for a 18 year old in A ball.
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Far superior? Let's not get carried away here.
I have no doubt Pache could improve, but for now there are still major questions surrounding his bat and even if he were to dispell those concerns, he simply doesn't project to be an impact offensive player. It's very unlikely he'll hit for much power and his his hit tool doesn't suggest to be elite (ala Albies).
Inciarte or Hamilton appear to be his best case scenario, which is nothing to sneeze at, but far from superstar players.
I thought he was projected to develop power. I could be way off though
I'm sure he'll develop some power. He has a nice frame that could stand to add a few pounds of muscle. But with his swing plane, it's pretty unlikely he'll hit more than 15 homers on a regular basis. And if he does add muscle, he's likely to lose a step or so off his 70 grade speed.
clvclv (01-04-2018)
Pache is projected to gain quite a bit more power actually. Whether that translates into reality has yet to be seen, though, obviously. Most thought it would start this year and never did. Still his frame is much more impressive and conducive to power than Hamilton or Inciarte. Like not even on the same planet really. And yes at this stage in their careers, his hit too is more advanced than Inciarte's was. Sorry, that's a bad comparison whether he lives up to some, all, or even none of his potential. Hamilton is an awful comparison.
15 homers on a regular basis would be quite significant
Yelich will be traded it’s just a matter of where.
Pretty sure it was Jon Morosi.
I'd be shocked if Pache isn't more than Hamilton if his power develops. His swing will need a minor adjustment in a concerted effort to get more lift but his hit tool is on a plane that is better than Ender's (and I say that with a healthy like for Ender's overall offensive approach).
I'm not going to bore you with that defense stuff. But IF Pache is needed in the deal, I'll be ecstatic for Yelich...but misty eyed about Pache.
The question was asked in the early Yelich threads, but it is valid with Realmuto in the mix:
Is the trade easier to do if we take on Prado's salary for 2018?
I was trying to put the laundry list together of what I would take if I were Derek Jeter. Of course, he kicked Minka Kelly to the curb so I don't have a lot of confidence in his assessment of talent ...
See this deal taking Folty, Flowers, Camargo (or Swanson!), Pache, Toussaint, Cumberland or Jackson and I would also give up Anderson. I'd also try to slip them Markakis for the hell of it.
Most of these trade suggestions aren’t even in the neighborhood of what it would take to get Yelich and Realmuto.
I don't know what it would take. I think they've gotten back subpar returns on Stanton and Ozuna.
Assuming we'd be taking on salary, I think I'd offer Anderson, Allard, Pache, Camargo, and Minter.
Don't know if that gets it done... but don't think I'd be willing to trade Albies, Acuna, or Gohara
Who do you think the Braves would need to add to the trade to do my suggested base deal, which was Yelich and Chen for Markakis. That would put Yelich at 99 mil over 5 years.
thank you weso1!
Atlanta would give up 2-3 of Wentz, Anderson, Wright, Allard, Soroka, Gohara, Newk and some more.
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