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Thread: 8/6 GDT: Miami Marlins (51-57) vs. Atlanta Braves (51-58); The Battle for 2nd Place

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    The FO needs to step in and say if we are going to call the young guys up, you need to play them

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    Looking at our starters' stats and noticed this...

    Sims' spin rate is the best on our starting staff

    Sims = 2306
    Folty = 2276
    Julio = 2236
    Newcomb = 2201

    MLB avg is 2231.

    How important is spin rate and can it help offset sims' velocity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by atl717 View Post
    Nothing impressive about only getting 3 K's, all by the pitcher.
    Yeah, I wouldn't call anything Sims has done impressive.

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    We need to be down 13-0 in 9th before we see Fried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    The Braves must have had terrible domestic scouts back in the Wren Era.

    Sims and Hursh (drafted ahead of Judge Lol) are not what I envision when thinking of 1st-rounders.
    Judge was picked 32nd. Not like we were the only 1 to miss on him

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Judge was picked 32nd. Not like we were the only 1 to miss on him
    Yup. It's not like we took Greg Oden when we could've had Kevin Durant first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Looking at our starters' stats and noticed this...

    Sims' spin rate is the best on our starting staff

    Sims = 2306
    Folty = 2276
    Julio = 2236
    Newcomb = 2201

    MLB avg is 2231.

    How important is spin rate and can it help offset sims' velocity?
    Spin rate plus arm slot equals movement. Spin rate for fastballs only really matters for 4 seamers, and statcast shows he doesn't get good rise. All of those spin rates are essentially average.

    Low spin rate for 2 seamers leads to sinking action.

    He just doesn't have the stuff to be more than a back end guy. He is a notch or 2 below Newk, and several notches below Folty.

    How did the change look today?

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    Why even have an 8-man pen when you refuse to use some of the guys (Morris, Fried)

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    Fried will be rusty big time before he gets a shot... he'll get ripped... he'll be back at Mississippi.

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    Sounds like Snit doesn't agree with the call up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Sounds like Snit doesn't agree with the call up...
    Did he say something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Did he say something?
    Actions speak louder than words.

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    People who don't think the start was impressive is just dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Yeah, I wouldn't call anything Sims has done impressive.
    I mean, is he one of our more exciting prospects?...no. I expect young pitchers to have bad innings here and there. I want to see how they respond after they struggle. He went five scoreless innings after getting torched. That's impressive. Wisler and Blair would have given up more runs and been out of the game after three innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    I mean, is he one of our more exciting prospects?...no. I expect young pitchers to have bad innings here and there. I want to see how they respond after they struggle. He went five scoreless innings after getting torched. That's impressive. Wisler and Blair would have given up more runs and been out of the game after three innings.
    Ok, then I agree, he is probably better than Wisler and Blair.

    He still isn't a long term SP option though.

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    I do look at things in context. He didn't give up any more runs because balls were hit at people. Not getting strikeouts is a bad sign.

    Despite Newk being frustrating to watch, I see some good signs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atl717 View Post
    I do look at things in context. He didn't give up any more runs because balls were hit at people. Not getting strikeouts is a bad sign.

    Despite Newk being frustrating to watch, I see some good signs.
    The same people that think Sims was impressive today also think Julio has been an ace in years past.

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    Jeez...nobody is calling Sims an ace or anything close to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Jeez...nobody is calling Sims an ace or anything close to that.
    Nobody is saying they are. But having batters hit balls right at fielders all day is not impressive. I guess some people have different standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Nobody is saying they are. But having batters hit balls right at fielders all day is not impressive. I guess some people have different standards.
    Finishing 6 innings after letting up 4 with only recording an out for a kid making his second start is absolutely imoressive.

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