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    Ok, fine. Instead of a chicken**** dodge, I’d be curious to know how you would respond to the material fact of the post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Why was it racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Ok, fine. Instead of a chicken**** dodge, I’d be curious to know how you would respond to the material fact of the post.
    ****ing rich, coming from you

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    • Rep. Hurd (TX)
    • Rep. Upton (MI)
    • Rep. Fitzpatrick (PA)
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    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Can you remind who failed to vote on the antisemitic resolution a couple months back?

    Dont remember you posting about it at the time

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    I used to coach against a man that kept track of every win and loss he ever had. Scrimmages,league games, tournament games/ Never won anything of consequence though.
    Kept a chart on his bedroom wall -- you remind me of him.

    Just curious, but do you keep a data base or maybe a paper chart on who posts what and the contents, like my friend, on the proverbial bedroom wall.
    By my unofficial count this is the 3rd time in the past two days you asked fellow posters what they posted weeks-months earlier

    Just curious.


    Why do you continue to prop up and make arguments for Trump ?
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    I already commented on his tweet... stupid, immature, potentially racist.

    I don't have any problems calling out Trump's many many shortcomings.

    I just wonder why you can't do the same for (D)

    I can't think of a single time where you have been critical of your team. Even the Hitler embracing and the journalist assault - you justify.

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    You say everyday "I have no problem ..."
    But you never do ---

    because that is what we have you for

    Why should I ? I think fair and balanced is like moral majority
    neither


    Hitler embracing --- ?
    you're weird
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    when will you tell us about the chart on your wall where you creepily map who says what when
    Again, you need a girl friend
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    I love the internet, where folks with 13-14 thousand posts on a baseball message board tell others they need to go out and get girlfriends...

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    Still waiting for 1 person to explain how trumps tweets were racist....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    ****ing rich, coming from you
    So, yeah, about the actual substance of the post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    So, yeah, about the actual substance of the post.
    I hope you remember this the next time you decide to nitpick a semantic word in a post of mine rather than address the substance like you do... pretty much all the time

    But to the substance... Trump has continued many of Obama's disastrous authoritarian policies, like caging children and droning countries. That's why Obama implementing them was so dangerous because that is the new floor for future Presidents. You supported Obama then and you still. After all, he did speak well

    Luckily, so far, Trump hasn't started anything new that we can't undo, unlike his predecessors

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I already commented on his tweet... stupid, immature, potentially racist.

    I don't have any problems calling out Trump's many many shortcomings.

    I just wonder why you can't do the same for (D)

    I can't think of a single time where you have been critical of your team. Even the Hitler embracing and the journalist assault - you justify.
    You posted some tweets from a guy who’s buddies with some of the folks who brought us Unite the Right. When I commented on this, you were all “lol everyone’s a nazi.” Yet you’re still talking about “embracing Hitler” because AOC quoted Eva Perón after Trump compared them. Like, I’ll see your ex post facto Nazi asylum-granter (google Operation Paperclip some time, fwiw) and raise you actual, living, breathing neo-Nazis.

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    EVERYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH ME IS A NAZI

    Wait wait that's not quite right...

    EVERYONE WHO MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH SOMEONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS A NAZI

    ...

    Also, I don't care to comment on AOCs associations with Linda Sarsour or her chief of staff bc AOC happens to embrace the idealoogy that has killed millions that I agree with

    That about cover it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I hope you remember this the next time you decide to nitpick a semantic word in a post of mine rather than address the substance like you do... pretty much all the time

    But to the substance... Trump has continued many of Obama's disastrous authoritarian policies, like caging children and droning countries. That's why Obama implementing them was so dangerous because that is the new floor for future Presidents. You supported Obama then and you still. After all, he did speak well

    Luckily, so far, Trump hasn't started anything new that we can't undo, unlike his predecessors
    Continued or escalated? That was kind of the point. And to the point that he hasn’t done anything that can’t be undone, you seem to negate your own premise here. Trump could have, you know, not escalated and liberalized drone policy. But he did, and you’re choosing to blame Obama. Similarly, he could have chosen to not institute zero-tolerance and family separation. So he hasn’t done anything which can’t be undone, but he’s significantly escalated the policies of his predecessor, which...couldn’t have been undone?So if the next president accelerated those policies still further, your logic would indicate that it was inevitable and couldn’t have been undone, right?

    One basic point is correct—one of the reasons that Obama’s drone policy was bad is that it gave future presidents cover and precedent to accelerate it and remove even the modicum of accountability that his administration put in place. Of course, that’s exactly what’s happened, yet you seem unwilling to either acknowledge that fact on its own, or to acknowledge that it’s taking a bad precedent and making it worse. So, in light of that, has Trump not done anything that can’t be undone, and why was the O administration any different?

    You’re barking up the wrong tree with me. I was opposed to Obama’s drone policy, and am on record here for years as having done so. I voted for the guy, twice, and I am more than willing to offer my laundry list of policies of his that I think were ****ty. Trump’s now doing worse things in two areas that you allegedly care a lot about, and the only comment you have is that, well, it’s actually Obama’s fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    EVERYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH ME IS A NAZI

    Wait wait that's not quite right...

    EVERYONE WHO MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH SOMEONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS A NAZI

    ...

    Also, I don't care to comment on AOCs associations with Linda Sarsour or her chief of staff bc AOC happens to embrace the idealoogy that has killed millions that I agree with

    That about cover it?
    If, by covering it, you mean be completely incomprehensible, sure.

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    But, you know, for the record, I don’t think that everyone it disagrees with me is a Nazi. Mostly just the ones who hang out with Nazis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Still waiting for 1 person to explain how trumps tweets were racist....
    Um, ok. To whom were Trump’s tweets referring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Continued or escalated? That was kind of the point. And to the point that he hasn’t done anything that can’t be undone, you seem to negate your own premise here. Trump could have, you know, not escalated and liberalized drone policy. But he did, and you’re choosing to blame Obama. Similarly, he could have chosen to not institute zero-tolerance and family separation. So he hasn’t done anything which can’t be undone, but he’s significantly escalated the policies of his predecessor, which...couldn’t have been undone?So if the next president accelerated those policies still further, your logic would indicate that it was inevitable and couldn’t have been undone, right?

    One basic point is correct—one of the reasons that Obama’s drone policy was bad is that it gave future presidents cover and precedent to accelerate it and remove even the modicum of accountability that his administration put in place. Of course, that’s exactly what’s happened, yet you seem unwilling to either acknowledge that fact on its own, or to acknowledge that it’s taking a bad precedent and making it worse. So, in light of that, has Trump not done anything that can’t be undone, and why was the O administration any different?

    You’re barking up the wrong tree with me. I was opposed to Obama’s drone policy, and am on record here for years as having done so. I voted for the guy, twice, and I am more than willing to offer my laundry list of policies of his that I think were ****ty. Trump’s now doing worse things in two areas that you allegedly care a lot about, and the only comment you have is that, well, it’s actually Obama’s fault.
    I agree that Trump has taken predecessor policies and made them worse. I'm just glad he hasn't instituted new ones like NDAA among many others.

    Im comfortable knowing I didn't vote for the guy, and won't be voting for him

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