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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Jordan Schafer wants Bud.
    Heard his vote gave Washington a bump too..

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    Washington is certainly high up the scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    Washington is certainly high up the scale.
    He's probably behind the eight ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
    Under his staff who would be some of his coaches....? Otis Nixon as hitting coach, chip carray as bench coach?
    Darryl Strawberry - 1st base coach
    Dwight Gooden - Pitching coach
    Keith Hernandez at 3rd

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    1. Brian Snitker
    2. Ron Washington
    3. Bud Black

    I don't see how Snitker doesn't get this job though. If they pass on giving it to Snitker, they are going to have to explain the reasoning to every player on this team. I think it runs the risk of tearing down what was built up over the last 3 months of the season.

    If they would interview him, I'd have Ron Roenicke high on the list. Probably right behind Snitker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prikichi View Post
    Keith Hernandez at 3rd
    you gonna help him move and drive him to the airport?

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    Gardenhire is dumber than a chicken.

    If they hire Washington, I imagine Chip will be doing all the post-game interviews.

    List looks decent. I'm not that much of an advanced stats guy, but I would still like them to go outside the organization. I like our return to a more traditional scouting/player development approach, but we could use an infusion of some new blood at the big league level.

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    David Ross is probably my number 1 choice overall. Especially after playing for Maddon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    David Ross is probably my number 1 choice overall. Especially after playing for Maddon.
    He's played for a HoF manager and two great managers. Bobby, Maddon and Fredi.
    Forever Fredi


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    I continue to think Bud Black has the edge. That approach allows you to keep Snitker as bench coach, gives you a more experienced manager, and gives you another senior member of the organization that brings something to the table on pitching development.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ventura's Stolen Bases View Post
    Don't know anything about Gardenhire though.
    Imagine Bobby Cox, but just kinda ****tier in every way. Like how Rick Reed was the "poor man's Greg Maddux."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    Imagine Bobby Cox, but just kinda ****tier in every way. Like how Rick Reed was the "poor man's Greg Maddux."
    That's it in a nutshell. If Gardenhire were managing the Braves, Keith Lockhart would still be getting ABs for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dak View Post
    I continue to think Bud Black has the edge. That approach allows you to keep Snitker as bench coach, gives you a more experienced manager, and gives you another senior member of the organization that brings something to the table on pitching development.

    That's my take too. I get the feeling that Snitker was put in there as a place holder and no one expected him to do that well. However, even with his success he still isn't one of Coppy's guys. I think Black has the inside edge because of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Gardenhire is dumber than a chicken.

    If they hire Washington, I imagine Chip will be doing all the post-game interviews.

    List looks decent. I'm not that much of an advanced stats guy, but I would still like them to go outside the organization. I like our return to a more traditional scouting/player development approach, but we could use an infusion of some new blood at the big league level.
    I agree with you that I don't really care for the advanced stats approach, but I'm not sure why you think the team should go outside the organization when Brian Snitker did a better job with this bunch than anyone could have dreamed about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dak View Post
    I continue to think Bud Black has the edge. That approach allows you to keep Snitker as bench coach, gives you a more experienced manager, and gives you another senior member of the organization that brings something to the table on pitching development.

    I'm thinking whomever we get will be a seasoned guy, and we will keep Snitker on as the bench coach and confidante.

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    What I keep coming back to with Snitker is that when we fired Fredi, there wasn't exactly a torrent of sympathy for the guy, but the overwhelming sentiment was that no one could do anything with the club he was handed. And while there were some changes to the team after Snitker took over (Kemp, most notably), it was pretty similar to the team that Fredi managed at a 39-win pace. And Snitker managed it at a 77-win pace. Considering how things looked after the first month and a half, that's nothing short of miraculous.

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    The good thing is that Snitker will almost certainly become the bench coach or something else at the major league level even if he's not named permanent manager. So I doubt you would have players very upset, he wouldn't actually be going anywhere. And you could potentially get the advantages of having him around while adding add the advantages someone else would bring.

    I am fine with keeping Snitker on as permanent manager at this point, but I'm also fine if they bring someone else in. I'm not sure why Bud Black seems to be the clear favorite, but whatever.

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    I guess one thing that Bud Black has in his corner is that he was a player for John Schuerholz in Kansas City and for John Hart in Cleveland. Even so, how do you just ignore what Snitker did and the rapport he has with his players?

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    I am hoping that the manager search is wrapped up before the WS ends. That way we can officially go into the offseason with our focus on improving the roster
    Get off my lawn!

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    to me, they have already ask Snit if he would be bench coach if they hired Black. I have a feeling it will be Black with Snit as bench coach. Players get what they want, FO gets what they want.

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