I sure hope they wouldn’t. Then again, John Hart is still employed. If Dayton is hired, what are the chances he overpays moose to play 3B?Originally Posted by Enscheff
I sure hope they wouldn’t. Then again, John Hart is still employed. If Dayton is hired, what are the chances he overpays moose to play 3B?
To me....if Hart has been cleared of wrong doing (even though it proves he was clueless), I think that gives us a better chance of not getting kicked in the teeth quite as hard. If they find it was mainly two guys that were fired...hopefully they have a bit of mercy. The only (good) news about having the John’s around at this point...it’s likely they are friends with many high ups in baseball. They could very well be somewhat easy on the Braves (I can hope at least).
Hart being cleared because of no knowledge of Coppy's action is far worse than being named as having knowledge of the illegal actions IMO. It proves that he is not a good leader and thus doesn't deserve to be in the FO. As a leader you designate authority but not responsibility. Hart is over all the place where the buck stops. More reason for McGuirk and Liberty to clear house of poor FO people.
At this point, almost all scenarios are on the table. Intelligent organizational management is currently not the "Braves Way".
I could see the Braves taking almost any course of action, from mostly standing pat and only adding a BP arm, all the way to selling off major prospect assets and signing a couple large-ish FA deals to "win now".
How the Braves restructure the FO will have a larger long term impact than anything they have done during the rebuild. If they use this opportunity to modernize with bright men/women from outside the organization, they can move to the forefront of baseball ops departments. If they insist on back filling with more dinosaurs who are stuck living in the 90s, like GMDM, they will fall further behind the smartest teams in the game.
I am not optimistic.
The idea is both. You keep both. That's what rebuilding teams should do. Maximize your options. Save the service time.
jpx7 (10-31-2017)
Hearing Braves will have to forfeit rights to all players currently in the AzFL.
sounds like Hart's job may not be safe at all according to Bowman and DoB
Get off my lawn!
fake News!!!Hearing Braves will have to forfeit rights to all players currently in the AzFL.
From what I am reading, it seems as if Hart won't be back. Bowman is just the voice of the front office and has recently tweeted that the Braves are looking for someone to be President of Baseball Operations. Out of the candidates mentioned by DOB, I'm hoping for Ben Cherington even though Cherington did have his own international signing violations. I don't know much about Doug Harris but it seems like he is well respected around the league. However, he worked under Hart in Texas when Hart was the GM so if that means Hart stays as Pres of Baseball Ops, then count me out. I want a fresh start. A new voice. The game has changed so much since we were a powerhouse. We won't find another Bobby. I also want nothing to do with Hendry or Jennings.
This is what I am hoping for:
President of Baseball Ops: Ben Cherington
General Manager: Jason McLeod
Assistant General Manager(s): Adam Fisher and Billy Ryan
However, if Hart is forced out, I think we'll likely see Dayton Moore signed as President of Baseball Ops. He does seem to have the respect of many other front offices and it seems that others have enjoyed working under Moore. I must admit, that would be nice to have since we've apparently lacked that quite some time with Wren and Coppolella. But, I just hope that if Moore comes, he isn't given the GM title as well. If he is willing and able to bring in a top notch analytics guy such as McLeod or Cherington to serve as General Manager then I could absolutely get behind a Dayton Moore signing, even if he isn't my first choice. Just don't know how realistic that is.
What I expected
I'm reading the Braves are looking for a new head of baseball ops which implies Hart will not remain in that position. It is entirely possible he's shifted to another role. The fact that the Braves haven't parted ways with him yet makes a position change more likely than a dismissal.
Although the official date of expiration on his contract isn't known (as far as I can tell). Assuming it expires "after the conclusion of the World Series" or the anniversary date of his hiring, he's not officially unemployed until November 22nd - the date his hiring became official in 2013.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
I think they just aren't going to renew his contract and he isn't going to "work" for free. He just won't be brought back is the most likely scenario. I saw it written that after the conclusion of the YEAR was his contract term.
Last edited by Tapate50; 11-01-2017 at 02:17 PM. Reason: Corrected contract term
Ivermectin Man
Motte and Dickey now officially off the 40-Man Roster.
Now at 39 including Lindgren, Dustin Peterson, and Demeritte by my count.
Last edited by clvclv; 11-03-2017 at 10:50 AM.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
what happened to Motte? did I miss something.
Coppy
"Elected Free-Agency" according to the transactions page. Don't think they intended to offer him a contract anyway - just procedural (like Dickey).
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Santana and Lindgren activated from the 60-Day DL.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
BOGUS ... Worthless attempt at humor. Please note this is a virtual troll move. Rico.Hearing Braves will have to forfeit rights to all players currently in the AzFL.
Armando Rivero released. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Thought the tongue in cheek was obvious. But glad you noticed after a week.
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