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    I have a bad feeling about this. If we lose all of those prospects I hope Manfred and anyone who snitched die and burn in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    To be fair, sometimes those negative statements aren't so much sour grapes as an admission that the player might've been a bit over-hyped by those within the organization and fans with their Braves-colored glasses on at an earlier date.

    Not always the case, but that's certainly part of it.
    Too early in his development to make that determination. Coupled with the timing of statements from unnamed sources, draw you own conclusions.

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    I still wouldn't be the least bit surprised if when the official announcement comes, we lose our first pick. If MLB is going as far as declaring prospects FAs based on violations that have never before warranted a prospect being declared a FA, then MLB will take the must easier step of taking away our first pick.

    We're getting the baseball equivalent of the death penalty.

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    Maitan and Gutierrez are FA per 680 The Fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian22 View Post
    Maitan and Gutierrez are FA per 680 The Fan.
    Yunior Severino and Juan Contreras as well, quoth Badler (via mlbtraderumors).
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Declare all Braves’ minor leaguers FAs, all home games played in Gwinnett, and snit receive a 10-year guaranteed contract

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    Too early in his development to make that determination. Coupled with the timing of statements from unnamed sources, draw you own conclusions.
    That's never stopped people from jumping off the ex-Braves' bandwagons en masse before - this isn't just a Maitan thing.

    As for "drawing my own conclusions", I think we've seen way too much of that recently - and I even warned about doing so when everyone was speculating about what the potential losses might be. What I will go out on a limb and say is that the transgressions were obviously major and widespread. Are they making an example out of the Braves for this mess? Sure. But the people in charge were pretty obviously bending and/or breaking just about every rule in the book - MLB's not levelling these penalties if they don't have the evidence it was that bad (whether we've seen it or not just yet).
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    That's never stopped people from jumping off the ex-Braves' bandwagons en masse before - this isn't just a Maitan thing.
    That was kind of my point with the sour grapes comment and the other replies about former players, coaches and GM's. It just seems to happen frequently, and it's been going on for years.

    This was just the new regime's way of tipping off yesterday that they knew Maitan would be lost. Then, "Oh, we didn't think he was worth the money or the hype."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    That was kind of my point with the sour grapes comment and the other replies about former players, coaches and GM's. It just seems to happen frequently, and it's been going on for years.

    This was just the new regime's way of tipping off yesterday that they knew Maitan would be lost. Then, "Oh, we didn't think he was worth the money or the hype."
    It also probably tips that they aren't going to protest or appeal the penalties, either, or else they'd be saying, "Losing Maitan is a huge blow," which would help make the case that the penalties are excessive.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Braves have just lost every international prospect of any real value. Blakely made sure the Braves burned after Hart tried to **** on him to save his own ass.

    I think it’s safe to assume the Braves are in no position to deal any prospects to improve the MLB team any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    It also probably tips that they aren't going to protest or appeal the penalties, either, or else they'd be saying, "Losing Maitan is a huge blow," which would help make the case that the penalties are excessive.
    It sure appears that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Braves have just lost every international prospect of any real value. Blakely made sure the Braves burned after Hart tried to **** on him to save his own ass.

    I think it’s safe to assume the Braves are in no position to deal any prospects to improve the MLB team any time soon.
    It really is fairly catastrophic. Anthopolous is going to have to draft really well, think outside-the-box (but inside-the-rules), and consider trading established players to bring young talent into the system over the next several years.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Who else thinks the rebuild just got set back 2 more years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Who else thinks the rebuild just got set back 2 more years?
    I don't know about that...most of the international prospects lost were pretty far out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Who else thinks the rebuild just got set back 2 more years?
    The length of the window is what suffers here.

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    Our window is still open. We hurt our six plus year window.
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    Do we get to keep Contreras?

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    We keep waters?

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    Did we keep Kemp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Who else thinks the rebuild just got set back 2 more years?
    the effect is more in the time frame when the window closes
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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