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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    Perhaps our name is being thrown out there as a bluff to get Tampa to lower their price for Price?

    If Tampa thinks we're going to shell out money for Tanaka, they might ask for lesser talent to maximize Price's trade value.
    If Tampa makes Price available, there are any number of clubs that would be knocking down their door to get him. They certainly wouldn't look at any interest in Tanaka (if in fact there really is any) on our part as potentially losing some leverage with Price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skillet View Post
    If Tampa makes Price available, there are any number of clubs that would be knocking down their door to get him. They certainly wouldn't look at any interest in Tanaka (if in fact there really is any) on our part as potentially losing some leverage with Price.
    Tampa made Price available when they said they were open to trading him.

    Other teams probably don't want to mortgage their future, but Wren doesn't mind if Tampa were willing to lower their price.

    Wren did this last year with Zona. Zona wanted Simmons + Teheran IIRC, and Wren ended up giving up Ahmed and Delgado.

    Tampa has no legitimate reason to keep Price the next 2 years when they know he's going to be a free agent.
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    Price is a real danger. There was an interesting ESPN article the other day talking about how he isn't as good as most think. I would stay away from a pitcher with that many miles no their arm at his age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Price is a real danger. There was an interesting ESPN article the other day talking about how he isn't as good as most think. I would stay away from a pitcher with that many miles no their arm at his age.
    I've watched Price enough the last 5 years to form my own conclusion that the guy is a TOR pitcher that I want to go up against Clayton Kershaw or Adam Wainwright when the playoffs start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yogi44 View Post
    This is the part that surprised me.

    "Various reports already have speculated that the Yankees, Dodgers, Cubs, Braves, Rangers and Diamondbacks are the frontrunners to obtain Tanaka's services."

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/...&vkey=news_mlb
    I'd rather see them take that money and put it toward extending Heyward, Freeman and Simmons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MURF21 View Post
    I'd rather see them take that money and put it toward extending Heyward, Freeman and Simmons.
    Whats BS is that there should be enough money for that plus extentions. Liberty is sitting on more profit than ever. Its an absolute sham.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Price is a real danger. There was an interesting ESPN article the other day talking about how he isn't as good as most think. I would stay away from a pitcher with that many miles no their arm at his age.
    Price is an excellent pitcher. One of the 10 best in baseball over a large sample. He's not though Kershaw, Verlander, King Felix or Cliff Lee so I wouldn't go bonkers for him.

    What would really be awesome is if we had the money to absorb Lee's contract, Phillies seem interested in trading him, they need catching pretty bad so Gattis or CB and a few other pieces could net him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    There is money available. There is no reason not to. The profits are coming in and I would hope smart business people would realize that tthere is still untapped market share out there to get with a move like this.
    I agree completely with this statement. Unfortunately I highly doubt the Braves FO shares this view.

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    There is no way in hell that the Braves are going to pay a 20 million dollar posting fee on top of what it will take to sign Tanaka probably over 100 million. Also, it appears that the 25 extra million dollars in TV revenue is being banked for the move to the new stadium, which I think will be the scenario with most extra income. Now I still think Price and or Smardijza could still be a possibilty because their prices will come down the more the off season goes along.

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    Dont think the Yankees can sign him unless they get a favorable ruling on ARod.
    Dont think the Dodgers can sign him unless they move Kemp or other (s) like Eithier.
    Doubt he would sign with Cubs as far away as they are.
    Rangers? Maybe but then who would be the Alpha male in their rotation?
    Us? Dont forget how Wren was at the center of Kawakami's loss of face so to speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Whats BS is that there should be enough money for that plus extentions. Liberty is sitting on more profit than ever. Its an absolute sham.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPawMaxwell View Post
    Dont think the Yankees can sign him unless they get a favorable ruling on ARod.
    Dont think the Dodgers can sign him unless they move Kemp or other (s) like Eithier.
    Doubt he would sign with Cubs as far away as they are.
    Rangers? Maybe but then who would be the Alpha male in their rotation?
    Us? Dont forget how Wren was at the center of Kawakami's loss of face so to speak.
    Dodgers and Yankees have unlimited money, they can get him and worry about the rest later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Dodgers and Yankees have unlimited money, they can get him and worry about the rest later.
    There is no such thing as unlimited money. have you not been watching the off season pundits or is it just a matter of obdurance?

    Yankees do not want to pay luxury tax. Period. And Tanaka would not make that much of a difference by himself.

    Dodgers do not want to pay the luxury tax and dont need to with the team they have now. Tanake would be superflous.

    Arizona and Mariners can both play.

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    most do not see Tanaka as a TOP rotation guy, see him as a #2 or#3 in the rotation. He is not Darvish, he does not have Darvish's stuff. Still he is going to end up with a contract on the order of 7 years 126 Million or 18M per year. Not the kind of move the Braves are going to make in my estimation. The fact that they don't does not bother me a bit, as the success rate of Japanese pitchers failing is far higher than those being successful as a star. We don't need another Kawakami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPawMaxwell View Post
    Dont think the Yankees can sign him unless they get a favorable ruling on ARod.
    Dont think the Dodgers can sign him unless they move Kemp or other (s) like Eithier.
    Doubt he would sign with Cubs as far away as they are.
    Rangers? Maybe but then who would be the Alpha male in their rotation?
    Us? Dont forget how Wren was at the center of Kawakami's loss of face so to speak.
    Yah, but Kawakami wasn't ever supposed to be a star... even when he was signed, he was thought to be a number 3 or 4 at best. Tanaka has ace potential if he can translate it in the MLB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depley View Post
    most do not see Tanaka as a TOP rotation guy, see him as a #2 or#3 in the rotation. He is not Darvish, he does not have Darvish's stuff. Still he is going to end up with a contract on the order of 7 years 126 Million or 18M per year. Not the kind of move the Braves are going to make in my estimation. The fact that they don't does not bother me a bit, as the success rate of Japanese pitchers failing is far higher than those being successful as a star. We don't need another Kawakami.
    I highly disagree with this statement... almost everything I've read about Tanaka says he could translate to a TOR pitcher... actually everything that I'm reading is that Tanaka's stuff is almost a clone of Darvish.
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