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Thread: Crunching the numbers on a Machado trade - Potential 3B Trades

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    what about them...i think they are set at third
    when considering potential buyers and players available you mentioned Machado. There are significant rumors that the Cubs could upgrade SS with Machado.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    when considering potential buyers and players available you mentioned Machado. There are significant rumors that the Cubs could upgrade SS with Machado.
    what would they do with Russell? he's superior defensively. move him to 2B?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    what would they do with Russell? he's superior defensively. move him to 2B?
    Trade him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Trade him?
    Yea, I don’t see this move as very likely at all, given how much (a) the Cubs have robbed from their farm the past few years and (b) that offense is not really a huge issue for the Cubs (and Machado is obvs a defensive downgrade). However, I think the idea is Russell would be one of the big pieces heading back for Machado, so “what to do with him” is not really an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Plan F
    They'll probably need preparation H after watching him play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Also not comparable to the 07 team because we actually do have the talent to be this good. And we have been dominating the good teams in our division.
    It's unfair to say that about the 07 team. Andruw was just off 2 MVP level seasons, Chipper was healthy, Kelly Johnson was killing it at 2B, Francoeur was mediocre but still intriguing. Add a rotation with Hudson, Smoltz, and a top prospect in Davies to go with a bunch of wild cards. Now of course things shook out bad for all of our pitching that wasn't Hudson and Smoltz. But I digress. That team wasn't that bad. And that team had a much more glaring offensive hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    It's unfair to say that about the 07 team. Andruw was just off 2 MVP level seasons, Chipper was healthy, Kelly Johnson was killing it at 2B, Francoeur was mediocre but still intriguing. Add a rotation with Hudson, Smoltz, and a top prospect in Davies to go with a bunch of wild cards. Now of course things shook out bad for all of our pitching that wasn't Hudson and Smoltz. But I digress. That team wasn't that bad. And that team had a much more glaring offensive hole.
    Yeah, I don’t think the 07 team was obviously worse than this one either.

    Pretty similar honestly. And the 2007 team had young talent as well.

    They were just trying to get to the playoffs and overpaid a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Yeah, I don’t think the 07 team was obviously worse than this one either.

    Pretty similar honestly. And the 2007 team had young talent as well.

    They were just trying to get to the playoffs and overpaid a little.
    Overpaid a lot. I liked the trade, then I heard Feliz and Andrus were included and I revolted. If it was Salty, Harrison, and Jones, great trade. You give up a top prospect, a good but not amazing prospect, and a fringer, when you add in Feliz and Andrus it would be like casually throwing in Pache and Toussaint to a trade now (if Toussaint was 18)
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Overpaid a lot. I liked the trade, then I heard Feliz and Andrus were included and I revolted. If it was Salty, Harrison, and Jones, great trade. You give up a top prospect, a good but not amazing prospect, and a fringer, when you add in Feliz and Andrus it would be like casually throwing in Pache and Toussaint to a trade now (if Toussaint was 18)
    Made the trade like they thought they could resign him.

    Still, they traded from surplus.

    Wish they’d found a decent starter for some of those guys instead.

    Tex did his job—think Mahay did as well.

    If they’d made the playoffs they’d have had a punchers with Hudson and smoltz. Which is all they were looking for. Probably hoped the other wouldn’t suck.

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    I was always confused as to why the Braves didn't address the rotation at the deadline that year. When the trade with Texas was announced, I thought for sure the Braves would be bringing Millwood back in the deal. Having another veteran arm in that rotation could've really made a difference.

    As for 3b options this season, I'm fully on board the Beltre train. Would be the perfect addition and wouldn't cost all that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bj1133 View Post
    I was always confused as to why the Braves didn't address the rotation at the deadline that year. When the trade with Texas was announced, I thought for sure the Braves would be bringing Millwood back in the deal. Having another veteran arm in that rotation could've really made a difference.

    As for 3b options this season, I'm fully on board the Beltre train. Would be the perfect addition and wouldn't cost all that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bj1133 View Post
    I was always confused as to why the Braves didn't address the rotation at the deadline that year. When the trade with Texas was announced, I thought for sure the Braves would be bringing Millwood back in the deal. Having another veteran arm in that rotation could've really made a difference.

    As for 3b options this season, I'm fully on board the Beltre train. Would be the perfect addition and wouldn't cost all that much.
    I heard an interview with JS that day on 680 where he said that he tried to address the rotation and there were no improvements available. For whatever that's worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    I heard an interview with JS that day on 680 where he said that he tried to address the rotation and there were no improvements available. For whatever that's worth.
    Still a top three “worst trade ever” for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    I heard an interview with JS that day on 680 where he said that he tried to address the rotation and there were no improvements available. For whatever that's worth.
    That's a lie though, as Kyle Lohse was traded that deadline. If you offered that same package to the A's for Harem or half that package for Blanton, there was no way they would have turned it down.

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