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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    I saw that one too and thought about some crazy trade ideas some post on here. No way AA does that deal, lol.
    Seems like any one of those would be too much let alone the 3 of them. I still like Allard enough that I would not trade him for a relief pitcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan Black View Post
    Seems like any one of those would be too much let alone the 3 of them. I still like Allard enough that I would not trade him for a relief pitcher.
    I wouldn't trade any of them straight up for a reliever and I don't expect AA would either.

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    Am I the only one hoping that AA goes big and trades for Manny Machado? I know it would take a lot and he's going to be a FA but he would fit perfectly on this team. Put him at 3rd and let him hit 3rd between Acuna and Freeman. That suddenly makes Atl a real World Series threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstebanBugatti View Post
    Am I the only one...
    God, I hope so.

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    At the risk of sounding overreactionary, but...um....

    We're the greatest team of all-time. 110+ wins isn't out of the question.

    Our "The Process" seems to be paying off a whole hell of a lot quicker than the 76ers "The Process".
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    And when you have young players the caliber of Newk/albies/acuna/Soroka the projection systems may end up severely underrating a win total which is what we are seeing with this braves.

    I thought at the start of the year we were a 86 win team because of those players. We may see even more
    You forgot Foltynewicz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    What an absolutely awful idea. I wouldn't give up any of them individually for him, regardless of what the market value might be at the deadline.

    They'll be plenty of quality relief options we can acquire for prospects like D Peterson, Alex Jackson, Bryce Wilson, or Joey Wentz. Even middling prospects like Brett Cumberland could be trade chips for rental relief pitchers.
    I think it would be a mistake to trade Wilson for relief help, at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JusticeForAll23 View Post
    At the risk of sounding overreactionary, but...um....

    We're the greatest team of all-time. 110+ wins isn't out of the question.

    Our "The Process" seems to be paying off a whole hell of a lot quicker than the 76ers "The Process".
    Thank goodness for Frank Wren's process

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstebanBugatti View Post
    Am I the only one hoping that AA goes big and trades for Manny Machado? I know it would take a lot and he's going to be a FA but he would fit perfectly on this team. Put him at 3rd and let him hit 3rd between Acuna and Freeman. That suddenly makes Atl a real World Series threat.
    I rather wait and try to sign him in the off-season than give up a lot and watch him walk via free agency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    I think it would be a mistake to trade Wilson for relief help, at this point.
    Probably. I'm just making the point that trading any of our top 5 prospects for a reliever of any kind (even Kimbrell with 5 years control), is pretty dumb, much less trading 3 top 5 prospects.

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    Bryce Wilson is our best pitching prospect still in the minors. Ignored just like Soroka was early on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Bryce Wilson is our best pitching prospect still in the minors. Ignored just like Soroka was early on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Gohara
    You got me there. Wasn't really considering him since he has had quite some time in the majors. But I'm still pretty concerned with his health and his mental state right now. Wright has the raw tools to be the one but he hasn't gotten the results yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaGirl View Post
    Projection systems are conservative with young players. News at 11.

    Even given that, the fact they're usually conservative means that their projections with Albies/Acuna before this year were very impressive.
    If projection systems are "conservative" with young players and Allard sucks since his fastball is in the 89-91 MPH range, why on earth shouldn't he be traded for ANY upgrade you can get?

    The day the new metrics project Glavine as a HOFer will be the first time it's happened.

    I'm in no way touting Allard as "the next Glavine", but apparently the only thing keeping him from getting MLB hitters out right now is that he's in Gwinnett.

    Weight the projection systems evenly with the scouts that watch the games in person and continue to rate Allard as a Top 50-60 prospect (and ahead of a lot of names that get bandied about around here), and it's a bit funny to read the comments about how he can't possibly succeed at the next level. Teheran can't possibly succeed because of this metric or that one, tell that to the Mutts. At the same age, Tommy was 12-11, 3.88, 1.435, etc. at Greenville and Richmond.

    I completely get being excited about the "stuff" guys and physical studs, but some guys can just pitch/play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Gohara
    And after gohara it's anderson.

    I know I know. I'm crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    I rather wait and try to sign him in the off-season than give up a lot and watch him walk via free agency.
    I want Machado this year but purely for selfish reasons. Prob not smart baseball wise... although I think he will be cheaper in trade than we think in his walk year. The thing I worry about is that he wants to play SS, right? If that's the case he may not want to sign long term anyways. I def only want him if we can also sign him long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    You forgot Foltynewicz.
    Folty is showing some signs but I still worry about that fastball command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    And after gohara it's anderson.

    I know I know. I'm crazy
    I put Wilson and Wentz ahead of Anderson

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    I put Wilson and Wentz ahead of Anderson
    I could understand that. Both are interesting guys. I just think Andersons upside is the highest. Braves are taking it really slow with him. He won't sniff the majors until mid 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    What an absolutely awful idea. I wouldn't give up any of them individually for him, regardless of what the market value might be at the deadline.

    They'll be plenty of quality relief options we can acquire for prospects like D Peterson, Alex Jackson, Bryce Wilson, or Joey Wentz. Even middling prospects like Brett Cumberland could be trade chips for rental relief pitchers.
    Absolutely awful idea - no doubt.

    Guess I was the one here who started banging the Iglesias/Hand drum (and I'd still love to have either), but I mentioned a couple secondary level arms. If a Fried/Touki/Wilson/Muller level-guy and a lesser prospect (and yes, I'm well aware that doesn't add up on the "value scale" for some here) I'd go get one, but something like that may well be the best "real world" offer either team gets for either guy,

    Sure you're talking about the headliners being guys that are double-digit prospects on our lists, but they'd very immediately be top 3-5 guys in the Reds' system.
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