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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    Agreed. However, let's say a team like the Cards whiff on a 1B upgrade and the M's agree to pay 10/10 so the Cards are only on the hook for $7M each year in exchange for 3B Nolan Gorman. That's gotta be a win for the M's right, even with Gorman 3-4 years away.
    Uhhh yeah. If the M's are able to get Nolan Gorman for Carlos Santana that would be a win. I don't see that happening in reality though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by braves31win View Post
    Kyle Seager or Dee Gordon
    Braves get: Dee Gordon and Mitch Haniger
    M’s get: Teheran, O’day, Bryce Wilson
    Get off my lawn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulavol View Post
    In all seriousness, what do you gents think the actual cost for Haniger would be?
    M's wanna shed payroll, so i think we'd have to take on another salary with Haniger.

    But Haniger alone would cost i think one of Riley/Pache/Waters, one of Touki/Anderson/Wright/Soroka, and a couple lesser prospects i think. But after the trade for Segura, i dont even know anymore.

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    Anyone think AA is hesitant to make big trades because of the Thor trade and how bad he left the Toronto system when he left due to the Tulo/Price, other trades. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    Uhhh yeah. If the M's are able to get Nolan Gorman for Carlos Santana that would be a win. I don't see that happening in reality though.
    IDK. Fangraphs has Gorman rated as a prospect value of $21M

    If you sell Santana as a 2 WAR guy and STL agrees (not a given, his WAR has bounced around some from a high of 4,3 to a low of 1) and you figure $9M per WAR then 9x4=$36M-$14M = $22M so pretty even if you value it that way.

    I personally think Gorman is a potential star and would rate him much higher than where FG has him, but heh...

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    https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-...entire-market/

    explains a little why segura's value was suppressed. makes some sense. i didn't realize he had attitude issues other places, and when you look at it, few teams needed a SS.
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    carlos santana will not fetch nolan gorman at the deadline. come on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-...entire-market/

    explains a little why segura's value was suppressed. makes some sense. i didn't realize he had attitude issues other places, and when you look at it, few teams needed a SS.
    He will likely fit right in with the Phillies clubhouse then. They seem to have no chemistry starting with their robot manager.

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    Hypothetical trade....would you do this....
    Braves get Grienke and Peralta
    DBacks get Teheran, O’Day, Gohara and Bruce Sutter’s remaining salary.

    Tweak this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRunningAgent View Post
    Hypothetical trade....would you do this....
    Braves get Grienke and Peralta
    DBacks get Teheran, O’Day, Gohara and Bruce Sutter’s remaining salary.

    Tweak this.
    No, dont want Greinke and his salary.

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    Dodgers apparently going after Harper, oh man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRunningAgent View Post
    Hypothetical trade....would you do this....
    Braves get Grienke and Peralta
    DBacks get Teheran, O’Day, Gohara and Bruce Sutter’s remaining salary.

    Tweak this.
    Greinke is 35 years old and his contract runs through his Age 37 season. I don't think he's an ace and he's owed 30 million a year for the next three seasons.

    Peralta is not near good enough to make eating Greinke's contract worth giving much thought to.

    Even if the D-Back took on half of Grienke's salary, I would not think it would be a good move and that would still probably about blow all of the Braves payroll room this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Greinke is 35 years old and his contract runs through his Age 37 season. I don't think he's an ace and he's owed 30 million a year for the next three seasons.

    Peralta is not near good enough to make eating Greinke's contract worth giving much thought to.

    Even if the D-Back took on half of Grienke's salary, I would not think it would be a good move and that would still probably about blow all of the Braves payroll room this year.
    Yeah, that’s why I said “tweak this.” Is there any scenario in which something surrounding this could work for the Braves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Greinke is 35 years old and his contract runs through his Age 37 season. I don't think he's an ace and he's owed 30 million a year for the next three seasons.

    Peralta is not near good enough to make eating Greinke's contract worth giving much thought to.

    Even if the D-Back took on half of Grienke's salary, I would not think it would be a good move and that would still probably about blow all of the Braves payroll room this year.
    If we were paying zack 15 mill per. Then yes he would be worth it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Anyone think AA is hesitant to make big trades because of the Thor trade and how bad he left the Toronto system when he left due to the Tulo/Price, other trades. Just a thought.
    I've been impressed with Anthropoulos thus far, but your post is what scares the liver out of me about him. Given the international signing restrictions, I think he has to be extremely careful about how he views deals involving prospects. Things could get pretty thin pretty fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Dodgers apparently going after Harper, oh man.
    I predicted he go to LA or back to the Nationals when the offseason began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    If we were paying zack 15 mill per. Then yes he would be worth it
    I wouldn't sign Greinke to 3/45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I wouldn't sign Greinke to 3/45.
    why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I've been impressed with Anthropoulos thus far, but your post is what scares the liver out of me about him. Given the international signing restrictions, I think he has to be extremely careful about how he views deals involving prospects. Things could get pretty thin pretty fast.
    It's also why i dont see us in on QO guys, we need all our draft picks given the international limitations.

    Our farm is good, but the depth after the top 12 or so is very, very thin. I do think we'll make some trades but given what happened in Toronto and learning what LA does, i think he'll be smart in trades. But we'll see. Braves window wont last forever though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I wouldn't sign Greinke to 3/45.
    He will produce 5 war over the next three years.
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