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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    EL doubled down on his Fulmer comp for Wislon in his latest chat. He's usually pretty spot on with his scouting reports, so let's take a look at what Wislon showed us in 80 pitches compared to what Fulmer does.

    Wilson FA: 95.1 mph (Grade 58.5), 4.9" HMov (Grade 48.6), 8.6" VMov (Grade 46.0), Grade 55/60 overall
    Fulmer FA: 96.1 mph (Grade 63.2), 1.6" HMov (Grade 29.9), 8.4" VMov (Grade 44.2), Grade 55/60 overall

    Fulmer's FA has half a grade more velocity, but quite a bit less arm side run.

    Wilson SL: 82.7 mph (Grade 41.8), 3.2" HMov (Grade 53.6), -0.2" VMov (Grade 58.4), Grade 55 overall
    Fulmer SL: 85.7 mph (Grade 54.7), 5.0" HMov (Grade 62.8), -1.1" VMov (Grade 62.7), Grade 65 overall

    Fulmer's SL is quite a bit better, close to a full grade better, actually.

    Wilson CH: 8.3 mph delta (Grade 52.7), 9.4" HMov (Grade 62.2), 2.7" VMov (Grade 58.9), Grade 55/60 overall
    Fulmer CH: 8.2 mph delta (Grade 52.2), 7.0" HMov (Grade 45.2), 0.7" VMov (Grade 67.0), Grade 55/60 overall

    Fulmer's CH has more sink and less fade. These pitches grade about equally.

    Wilson Command: He appears to have around Grade 45 command now, and his MiLB BB/9 suggests he is capable of getting to 50, and perhaps higher.
    Fulmer Command: Career MLB BB/9 of 2.48 suggests Grade 60 command, and he has flashed even better previously at the MLB level.

    The main difference is Fulmer also uses the following SI quite often...

    Fulmer SI: 95.8 mph (Grade 67.5), 8.2" HMov (Grade 48.1), 5.7" VMov (Grade 49.2), Grade 60/65 overall

    Does Wilson have a plus SI in his back pocket, just waiting to unleash it at the MLB level? Reports suggest he scrapped it in favor of the FA, so that's some indication it wasn't working out.

    So that makes Wilson the equivalent of Fulmer minus a full grade on the SL, at least a full grade on the command, and an entire plus pitch in the SI. Fulmer was a legit #3 or better in 2016 and 2017, and is closer to a #4 this year due to a hiccup in his command.

    What do you get when you take a #3, remove a full grade from his SL, worsen his command a full grade, and remove a plus SI from his arsenal entirely? You get Bryse Wilson, a #4 who can climb to fringe #3 status with improved control and dialing in the SL a bit...all the while maintaining the velocity on his FA.

    Or...exactly what I said he was in my original write up...
    He was actually very effective with the 2 seamer, he was just informed to use the four because spin rates. To my knowledge he had plenty of success rising to AA or AAA as a 19/20 yr old without the 4 seamer until this season around the mid mark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    was michael fulmer a finished product with declining velo at 20?
    Is that even remotely close to what I said about Wilson?

    Reading comprehension....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Is that even remotely close to what I said about Wilson?

    Reading comprehension....
    it ain't all about enscheff, believe it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    it ain't all about enscheff, believe it or not.
    I was also confused by your post... My post was giving Bryse Wilson a better chance of success than an older pitcher. Didn't understand your comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    I was also confused by your post... My post was giving Bryse Wilson a better chance of success than an older pitcher. Didn't understand your comment.
    yes i know
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    I was also confused by your post... My post was giving Bryse Wilson a better chance of success than an older pitcher. Didn't understand your comment.
    I usually chalk posts like that up to someone being so desperate to prove me "wrong" that they serve up a gigantic derp burger.

    He was clearly trying to mock me for comparing a 20 year old Wilson to a 25 year old Fulmer, but his limited reading comprehension skills failed to alert him to the fact that I literally said Wilson "can climb to fringe #3 status with improved control and dialing in the SL a bit...all the while maintaining the velocity on his FA".

    In short, he failed at being clever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I usually chalk posts like that up to someone being so desperate to prove me "wrong" that they serve up a gigantic derp burger.

    He was clearly trying to mock me for comparing a 20 year old Wilson to a 25 year old Fulmer, but his limited reading comprehension skills failed to alert him to the fact that I literally said Wilson "can climb to fringe #3 status with improved control and dialing in the SL a bit...all the while maintaining the velocity on his FA".

    In short, he failed at being clever.
    i have great reading comprehension and all the tests have said so, so WRONG!
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    i'm also comfortable with the fact i don't have some at least slight mental issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    yes i know
    Well then... Congrats? I don't know how to respond to any of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    i'm also comfortable with the fact i don't have some at least slight mental issues.
    Did “all the tests” tell you this too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Did “all the tests” tell you this too?
    yep. yours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    yep. yours?
    Mine were also good, except for a touch of Boanthropy and Apotemnophilia... Which basically means that I think I'm a Cow who wants to rip his leg off. Its not that bad, the voices in my head reassure me of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    Mine were also good, except for a touch of Boanthropy and Apotemnophilia... Which basically means that I think I'm a Cow who wants to rip his leg off. Its not that bad, the voices in my head reassure me of that.
    I nominate this for post of the week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Managuarantano's Volunteers View Post
    I nominate this for post of the week.
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