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    2014 to "the latest filing "
    Link please ?

    To measurable year that would have been December 2015.
    Before the primary campaign or any non sense about emails
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    The first part of the email scandal was early in 2015. You don't think that these donors have their own research teams?

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    I asked for a links and context to the numbers/assumptions you use/make to support the Trump Presidency/

    Which email scandal.
    /the one where the Russians hacked into DNC and Clinton campaign servers on behalf of DJT or the one where HRC did as advised by previous Secretaries of State ?
    ......

    You gave the keys to the largest military in the history of mankind to a "manchild"
    over a fabricated email scandal

    That thethe is the point
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    I supported the trump presidency because of the policies he was pushing which I've repeated on multiple occassions. I think that globalism doesn't help the middle class and I believe that immigration and terrorism are real risks to national security. If you haven't noticed this is something that ovwr a hundred million people across the western world believe.

    So that I'd why I happily voted for trump over Clinton who just wants to push the one nation world.

    I'm responding to your point that the email scandal was fabricated. This is not a figment of the imagination of the alternative right wing. You can pretend like it is while you live in your liberal bubble. Emails were delete for a reason.

    Do you think that's it's OK this was done? Especially after receiving a subpoena? Or are you so partisan that your candidate can commit federal crimes without drawing any condemnation?

    Those stats I posted were from official releases so to ask for a link when you could easily do a quick Google seach proves your head in the sand mentality when it comes to your side.

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    " I'm responding to your point that the email scandal was fabricated. "

    As evidenced by the Grand Jury indictments and the $25 M out of court settlement
    ....

    The middle class ?
    Look at un employment numbers and tax break numbers toward the middle class numbers away from (R) administrations.

    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...-increase.html
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    I would argue that globalization is the excuse the manufacturing class uses to justify their abandonment of rust belt cities in the name of profit.

    The auto industry which drove the post WWII economy was blind sided by the Japanese invasion of the 1970's.
    Instead of biting the bullet and reinvesting in upgrades to factories and manufacturing they choose huge bonus' and outsourcing to Mexico.

    Even ya boy Trump uses Japanese steel !!!

    you can look that up as Casey used to say but ...

    That would require research on your part because I don't think this argument can be "bullet pointed" as some other Trump voters require.
    Would also require reading some out side of your bubble reading material

    Not holding much hope in either regard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    What the alt-right really wants according to a professor who is writing a book about them - The Washington Post

    How would you describe the typical person in the alt-right?

    From the people I’ve talked to, I’d say that the modal alt-right person is a male, white millennial; probably has a college degree or is in college; is secular and perhaps atheist and [is] not interested in the conservative movement at all. For six decades now, the mainstream right has really been defined by its basic principles: traditional family values, limited government intervention in the economy and a hawkish foreign policy. The alt-right, from what I can tell, has zero interest in any of that.
    I think the alt-right springs from this: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/26/bo...back.html?_r=0

    Folks may also want to read this book. It's almost 20 years old and it's a screed from the first sentence on, but pretty illuminating. Link: https://www.amazon.com/Redneck-Manif...neck+manifesto

    Basic point is that the whole alt-right thing has been going on for awhile. I certainly don't share their views, but I was watching Blazing Saddles this morning and wondered if Mel Brooks could get that movie made today. There has been an overweening control of language and action that has blurred the line between parody and civility.

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    " I think that globalism doesn't help the middle class "

    but this will


    LOLGOP


    Single parents could get a tax hike and lose their insurance and their Medicare guarantee all under Trump. Call it The Full Betrayal.


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    A single working parent in 2016 --- doesn't get more middle class than that
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    " I think that globalism doesn't help the middle class "

    but this will


    LOLGOP


    Single parents could get a tax hike and lose their insurance and their Medicare guarantee all under Trump. Call it The Full Betrayal.


    .....

    A single working parent in 2016 --- doesn't get more middle class than that
    That's the Not-Marriage Penalty.

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    How do you define hike? And what is the probability on could?

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    Your question is why you never understand
    outside of your narrow scope.

    Fer Christ's sake, even Fox News gets it

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    The relationship between Trump and ICBC is one of the clearest financial connections between the president-elect and a foreign government, and it highlights the potential conflicts of interest that could spring from his sprawling business empire. While presidents are exempt from many rules designed to prevent such conflicts, the U.S. Constitution bars all U.S. officials from receiving gifts or payments from foreign governments under the so-called “emoluments” clause.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...uring-his-term
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Your question is why you never understand
    outside of your narrow scope.
    LOL! Self-awareness isn't one of your strong points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Your question is why you never understand
    outside of your narrow scope.

    Fer Christ's sake, even Fox News gets it
    Seriously?

    You are so hardcore in your narrowmindness that what you said is epic.

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    You have to understand that since over 90% of the media is liberal he thinks he is actually getting news from a wide range of opinions. It's sad but that's just how it is. Eventually he will realize that there is a while world r people that live outside the big liberal cities and might actually think differently than him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You have to understand that since over 90% of the media is liberal he thinks he is actually getting news from a wide range of opinions. It's sad but that's just how it is. Eventually he will realize that there is a while world r people that live outside the big liberal cities and might actually think differently than him.
    This is 57 we're talking about here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    This is 57 we're talking about here.
    What I find amusing is that liberals haven't realized yet. This is not isolated to a racist group of redneck's. This a western civilization revolution which was in part started by the arrogance of liberal ideology. It's so gratifying to see them scramble now as their world crumbles beneath them.

    As I've sad before...if the western nations have a revival as a result of these populist policies then liberalism as we know it might cease to be relevant for half a century. What a relief.
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    " This is not isolated to a racist group of redneck's "
    https://www.thenation.com/article/do...-our-lifetime/


    " these populist policies "
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...onaires-231831

    .....

    Maybe we revisit this in a year
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    " This is not isolated to a racist group of redneck's "
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    OMG wealthy people are in his cabinet? This is the worst thing that could ever have happened! This is part of the drivel that people are sick of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    " This is not isolated to a racist group of redneck's "
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    Does this picture disprove what I said?

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